committee believes that mr. trump and others may have, that s important, they are being careful, engaged in criminal and/or fraudulent acts. that s a very big deal to put on paper and submit to a federal judge. what kind of crimes are we talking? the two main crimes, obstruction of a federal proceeding. congress counting the electoral votes as required by the 12th amendment. also conspiracy to defraud the united states. people hear defraud, they think of money. here the fraud is defrauding the united states of a free and fair election. and now the committee argues this wasn t just bad legal advice from john eastman. this was false. this was fraudulent. and they know it because doj said so. homeland security, people in the white house said, you didn t win, mr. president. john eastman himself even acknowledged he knew this legal theory was bogus. let me pick up on that last point because there was a quote of an email exchange within this 61-page court filing. i want to zero in on i
i won. forget it. tucker: you didn t win. you have to answer it correctly. i won by default. tucker: you said c. will go to the tape and you will be judged by the video. build a bear sets up an adults only site and i m not kidding that unveils an after dark collection of bears. these valentine addition tarted bears, and sexy outfits. the most disturbing feature, when you pass the cursor over these bears, their clothes disappear. tucker: judge jeanine, the judges are saying on some deeper moral level you won because you showed restraint but technically lost because you have zero points. wait a minute. tucker: that s what they are saying. if he lost by default, that s the end of it.
country doesn t go their way to bring the country back together again, and the usually country back together again, and the usually play a productive role in that process. this is the first time we have that process. this is the first time we have seen the active existence of saying. we have seen the active existence of saying. this we have seen the active existence of saying, this isn t right, or bringing saying, this isn t right, or bringing down the democracy because you didn t bringing down the democracy because you didn t win. that is the very thing you didn t win. that is the very thing we you didn t win. that is the very thing we have heard from democrats today thing we have heard from democrats today. where are my republican counterparts right now? we know you can be counterparts right now? we know you can be there, because you were there onjanuary can be there, because you were there onjanuary six, we all ended up on the house onjanuary six, we all ended
world and against me and against nick, that i can still make choices that aren t violent. reporter: and she told me shelter needed the defendants to hear that as well. the judge at one point telling one witness that, look, reminding them, these defendants are innocent until proven guilty. still, for a lot of these witnesses, helen included, it was important for them to sort of reach out and to say, look, you didn t win, we re not angry, we re not seeking revenge, but we do need to tell our stories and we need them to be heard by you and by the rest of the world. hallie, this is a very long trial. nine months long. the main defendant is expected to take the stand sometime next spring. it s not clear if we ll learn anything more. he hasn t spoken to investigators in the nearly six years since his arrest.
donald trump issued a statement this morning claiming, again, that the election was corrupt. and that it was stolen from him. more big lie, or big lies. this as we learn new tdetails i a new book about the final days of the trump presidency, washington post reporters share details of election night conversations among top advisers. giuliani s grand plan was to just say trump won. top aides said it was irresponsible. the panel is back to discuss. it is striking you read the excerpt of the book. they put some of it in the post today. essentially that rudy kept telling trump, just keep saying you won. even though the evidence was to the contrary. and that trump so liked that that it was almost impossible for anyone else to say sir, you didn t win. you re not winning. you re losing. i mean, it s a very striking