the traits of an enforcer and described you as his quote loyal soldier. no exception did you find it? sfwl me, too so the attorney general that he would be the most popular guy in the country the he delivered that message do you see that on page 92. i do. is that correct i believe it s accurate and you told the president that you understood what he wanted sessions to do. is that that what you told the special counsel? same page. and you did understand what the president wanted he knew not to create a trail. so looking at the slide, he w t wants to pass the message to sessions in person rather than on the phone where is that? after you left the oval office, you didn t schedule a meeting. instead, you called the attorney general at home.
for word speech for him, that, there was no inconsistency with that and the fact that the attorney general had recused himself, you know he had and you knew he couldn t participate in that i m not a trained congressman. i am that s not why i m asking. just asking if you knew that he had retuesdcused hym ed him. and by recusing himself, you re aware of the public reports that what was in his recusal statement on march 2nd of 2017, that he wasn t going to participate in any existing or fuf vest gays or any matters relating to the campaign for president. you knew that was out there. so when the president asked you to specifically go in there and ask him to deliver a speech which was contrary to that, forget b about being a lawyer. did it strike jou as off in any way or were you concerned in any way? no, sir was it the right decision for sessions to recuse himself well i can t comment on jeff sessions decision making
when the president asked you, did you hear the question. i m sorry, could you repeat the question when the president asked you to deliver that message, did he tell you that two days before the meeting, his white house counsel refused to fire the special counsel. the white house directed me not to disclose conversations with the president so you are not allowed to answer whether or not the president told you he called his counsel at home on saturday to remove on a saturday b, he prove the special counsel and his counsel said no. the president had also personally called sessions at home and asked him to unrecuse himself and oversee the special counsel s investigation and sessions said no when the president asked you to deliver his message to session, did the president tell you that sessions had already said no, volume two, page 107 again, i recognize the privilege is not mine. but i ve asked the white house, congressman, i d be happy to answer or you can have the conversation y
to attorney general jeff sessions, he told you to quote, write down, isn t that correct that s accurate and it was just you and the president in that meeting, correct? it was. and you knew that you needed to write down as fast as possible what the president was telling you so that you could make sure to capture the content of what he was telling you correctly, correct i don t know the speed of writing was a criteria, but i tried to capture it to the best of my b ability, congressman thank you, sir. he dictated to you exactly what he wanted you to put into the mouth of attorney general yjeff sessions, correct? i believe he asked me to deliver a message a message for jeff to consider delivering himself. and it was a message he intended for jeff, meaning jeff sessions, to deliver out loud in
himself was asked to unrecuse himself, but sessions did the right thing and said i m not going to because i have a conflict because i did was involved in the campaign and knew some things can t do it. then the white house counsel advised the president not even to contact sessions. but you his loyal soldier would do it. you were different than sessions and mcgahn trump could depend on you. you didn t ask any questions you were a loyal soldier you just wrote down the message and agreed to deliver it that s what we thought you took the dictation, gave it to hope hicks. asked her to type it up for you. not that you couldn t have done it yourself, i m sure. then asked somebody else to deliver the message to sessions when you decided not to. donald trump talked to you outside normal channels so there would be no record of anything he asked you to do to obstruct justice. nothing to do with that at all the president knew what he was doing was wrong. mr. sessions knew u what he was doing was wr