About fighting corruption, we should also say specifically, burisma in 2016. Mr. Yermak provided me a statement. I wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that i had observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem being that he is getting a bad set of information, a Statement Like this could potentially correct that. Was mr. Guiliani satisfied with the statement . No, he was not. He believed it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, would not mean anything. So in fact, mr. Guiliani wanted a statement that Referenced Burisma and the 2016 elections explicitly. One that would benefit, essentially, President Trump. It is to invest or come here is the text you sent to the ukrainian official on August August 13th. Lets put that up on the screen. You said, hi,
Collecting it, they were not passing it to you, they were passing it to State Department . Department of defense . This is what they reported to me. I have not seen the documents that have been collected. I only know those documents that i have produced or that my staff at my staff has brought to my attention or that i have received. So no, i do not know what has happened with the documents that have been collected. Same general question to you, sir. I requested it wants given access to documents that had originated or were sent to me for the pertinent matters of this investigation during a finite. Back. I dont have information about what is going on in terms of other documents that i did not produce or do not receive. There was a move to gather them, and i understood generally and directly and informally that they had been gathered. That is the extent of my knowledge. It is not my area of
responsibility. Yes, but did they pass them on to you or did they pass them on to the administrat
My ambassador of assistance as well . They did. And if i said that number ambassador sondlands use of was circa in the military that term was that the three assistance around 270 million. Would that probably be people three people in accurate . Close. Charge of the ukrainian about right . Yeah. Did they get aid in policy. He ambassador volker and secretary perry. What did you come when did you come to learn about fy18 . Yes, sir. Including security mr. Giulianis role and what do you consider his role to assistance . Have been . Including Security Assistance. We have already talked about the javelins, the antitank missiles that they i heard about former mayor were not able to purchase in Previous Administrations. Giulianis interest in ukraine in january of this have they gotten Security Assistance in fy19 . Year. That was a different phase yes, sir. Prior to the 400 million than what happened during the summertime. Was it normal to have a or so that were discussing person who is a priva
They were not going to issue that statement that Rudy Giuliani wanted to include burisma and the 2016 elections there was no white house meeting. It soon became clear to them that the Security Assistance was also at risk and that took on a renewed importance for them. Well, following the 25th call, the July 25th Call, ambassador sondland and volker worked closely with mr. Giuliani and the ukrainians to help draft a statement that the president could make, president zelensky. Wasnt that right . Yes. And the report say they were closely and then also there were phone calls with the white house around the same time they were working closely do you know what that statement was supposed to say, according to mr. Giuliani and the u. S. Officials. The key difference is that it had to include that ukraine would do the investigations of burisma which equaled the Biden Investigation and the 2016
ukraine interference. Was there concern about doing the investigations or what . Just make a statement
Ukraine had a statement about Fighting Corruption and mr. Yermak would say burr mace in 2016. Mr. Yermak provided me a draft statement, and i wanted to be assured that this statement would actually correct the perception that mr. Giuliani had of ukraine and what they stand for now so that that would also be conveyed to President Trump and solve this problem that id observed with our may 23rd meeting with the president. The problem that hes getting a bad set of information, Statement Like this could potentially correct that. So was mr. Giuliani satisfied with this statement . No, he was not. Why not . He believed that it needed to say burisma and 2016 specifically or else it would not be credible, it would not mean anything new. So, in fact, mr. Jewel yagiu wanted it to State Burisma and
one specifically for President Trump. Mr. Ambassador, heres the text you sent to the ukrainian official on august 13th, lets put that up on the screen. You said hi, andre. Good talking. Following is the