Had already stopped the Trip Planning by that point. And when did that happen . Stopping the Trip Planning . Yeah. On may 13th. Okay. And how did you hear about that . I was called by a colleague in the the Vice President s chief of staffs office and told to stop the Trip Planning. Okay. And as i understand it, it was the assistant to the chief of staff . Thats correct. Okay. And so you didnt hear about it from general kellogg or the chief of staff or the president or the Vice President , you heard about it from mr. Shorts assistant . Thats right. And did you have any knowledge of the reasoning for stopping the trip . I asked my colleague why we should stop Trip Planning and why the Vice President would not be attending, and i was informed that the president had decided the Vice President would not attend the inauguration. Okay. And do you know why the president decided no, she did not have that information. Okay. And ultimately the Vice President went to canada for a usmca event . Tha
right? you were asked about whether in that meeting between the vice president zelensky, the bidens or burisma came up, and i think you said they did not, correct? thaet s correct, they did no come up. that bilateral meeting was a large meeting that involved two or three dozen people, wasn t? it was. in the context of this meeting with two or three dozen people, the vice president didn t bring up those investigations, correct? no, he did not bring up those investigations. he s never brought up those investigations. were you aware that immediately, and i mean immediately after that meeting broke up, ambassador sondland has said that he went over to mr. yermak one of the top advisers to zelensky and told yermak that if they wanted the military aid they were going to have to do these investigations or words to that effect? i was not aware at the time of any meetings, side meetings that ambassador sondland had following our the vice president s meeting with president zelens