Repeated vitriolic verbal attacks on the e. U. And on germany he saw a question this week your own country get its crisis in turkey should europe prop up. And to discuss that question im joined here in the studio by three astute observers and analysts beginning with allen poes now author and commentator for the berlin newspaper developed who says europe must help turkey the other ones come and go but the turkish people remain europes bridge to the muslim world. Also with us is christophe our national chief Diplomatic Correspondent for another berlin daily the Target Christophe believes that the other one is a misguided watercraft shell only respond to pressure and not to support and a warm welcome to to set a set of the head of foreign news the torch of ellis Politics Department zeta argues that europe must strive for a stable turkey but not at any cost. Thank you all for being here about to begin
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A bridge across the buspar all financed with easy money most of it going to firms which are in his orbit of the orbit of his family and that has ruined ruined the economy the problem is do the turks realise that its his fault or is it succeeding in in peddling the notion that its actually the fault of the especially the americans with the sanctions and the west and so on who are anti turkish and so on so thats something we need to counter. Well as all of us just mentioned president has accused the United States of launching a what he has called an attempt to economic two against turkey lets get a feel for what the president himself and some of his turkish compatriots have been say. So there is no difference between the attacks on our economy and the attacks on our religion and our nation the goal is the same and that is to bring turkey and its people to their knees and hold them hostage looked. Up some muslim let the
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A situation where europe and the United States are talking at the moment about europe can influence his course of Action Offering support but not at any cost under very Firm Conditions and that is we need an Economic Aid Program run by the International Monetary fund we need to stop his blackmailing of partners which he did over recent years just putting german or american citizens into jail and only offering to reason under certain conditions that is blackmailing a nato partner and he is also very unreliable as a nato partner he for example germany had one of their troops in talkie to to to help turkey to be in a safe situation with the war next door in syria and even didnt admit German Parliamentarians to visit german soldiers and so we had to change that and pull our troops out so theres
a bridge across the bosphorus all financed with easy money most of it going to firms which in our in his orbit of the orbit of his family and that has ruined ruined the economy the problem is do the
German parliamentarians to visit german soldiers and so we had to change that and pull our troops out so theres a lot of things where one is unreliable and now he needs our help and that is a moment where we should have very Firm Conditions under which we will give him financial it own posner president had wanted to play. Oh yeah definitely i mean. He started out as an economic reform. Important point and the west especially europe welcomed that and the idea was that turkey with this is a mild brand of islam is and could go Beyond Kemalist Nationalism and the. Kurds and turks and other minorities can find Common Ground in in being turkish and islamic and at the same time having this economic reform but. For whatever reason he abandoned that course he has abandoned the course of reconciliation of the kurds
hes also abandoned economic reform in favor of easy money looks good can build a huge president ial palace in a symbol can build a bridge across the bosphorus all financed with easy m
people in times of stress people to dictators when they feel a little better they think about democracy that s the way things go and this idea that we re all rational actors is just not borne out by reality so the point is now we are interested that turkey doesn t go down the drain economically that s a prime interest because if it does go down the drain economic everything else goes down the drain now if we help them will that help democracy we don t know. we don t know but we should make that a conditionality if because they won t accept to they would accept it every every hour every i wouldn t make democracy point part of the conditionality but i think leaders are behaving rationally it s just a question what you call rational and irrational of course the facts are known i don t know of course the interest of mr. is to get a deal este cheap as possible and our interest is to get a deal which is not cheap but which meets most of our conditions so there s this