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often you have to pay a high price. howard: i spoke about this and other hot topics with martha maccallum, anchor of the the story daily at 3 eastern, here in washington. welcome. hi, howie. great to be here. howard: the whole country is happy and relieved that brittney griner is back in america, but it took about 5 seconds for debate to erupt over whether this was a good prisoner swap for the russian arms dealer viktor bout, known as the merchant of death. you discovered covered this. this is exactly right. i mean, everybody it frustrates us so much when we see an american citizen taken around, you know, in a russian prison, we feel loss of control, how could this be happening to an american, wrongly accused or accused of something that is such a minor offense that they should not be spending 9 years in a russian work prison. the problem comes when you look at who we re trading for. howard: yes. and i think as americans you want to just say, no, we don t want to give anyth

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