when you look at this, you re starting to see situations here where it s not a he said/he said. it s not just the president s word versus cohen s. it s not paul manafort s word versus the president s word or together. you re going to be in a situation here with these statements. whether they re proving to be false or proven to be true, backed up by evidence. you re talking about a potential danger point. false statements contains a materiality requirement. english for me. i got you. i m going to go back to tom s turkey sandwich. there you go. you know, you understand turkey sandwiches. that materiality requirement that tom talked about means you can t charge someone for section 1,001. if they say i had a turkey on