biden being his opponent. second defense, i didn t know what rudy was doing. rudy said in the past i was doing it for my client, i was working as his attorneyis there any credence to that theory? does it give any clearance to the president if this was about what rudy did, not what the president knew about what he did? i think there s information that s come out that pompeo had talked to rudy yes. unfortunately pompeo won t testify, nor will giuliani to our committee, but pompeo and giuliani have talked, giuliani and sondland talked. he had giuliani, pompeo and mulvaney and the whole cast of characters as totally in the loop and plotting it. there s no question that s what s going on. all of a sudden mulvaney tries to find a way to say how can we rationalize this when they found
the president if this is about what rudy did, not what the president knew about what he did? i think there s information that s come out that pompeo had talked to rudy. yes. pompeo won t testify, nor will giuliani to our committee. but that pompeo and giuliani had talked. giuliani and sondland had talked. ambassador sondland was a key i wouldn t put him to the level of john dean, but he had giuliani and pompeo and mulvaney and the whole cast of characters as totally in the loop and plotting it, and there s no question that s what was going on. then all of a sudden, mulvaney tries to find a way how can we rationalize this when they found out the gig was up. if you could get one guy, who would be the one guy that you want to come in? and may i make a suggestion of bolton given what he tweeted today? what does he mean by saying that the policy aims were being, you know, subverted from within? well, bolton encouraged people that were working underneath him, and i think it
after they ve done all their work in the basement in secret, and now it wasn t in secret. hey, come to the party. now you can ask questions. and why wouldn t they? why wouldn t they try to i would say we re not playing in this one. because it was you don t like how it was before? here s your chance to tell the american people and participate in a process where everyone s looking, and you want to say, we don t like how it was before? there s not going to be 218 democrats that are going to vote for impeachment here. the ones we have to look at are those 31 seats where the president won, and we have democrats sitting in those congressional seats. those are the ones that everybody s going to be watching in these votes. folks like jeff van drew in new jersey. that s true. and conor lamb here in pennsylvania. those are going what about the american people, jim? what about the 50% of the population? [ overlapping voices ] jimmy, hold on a second. let s get some c