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other topics here with the midterms coming up and talking about these women s issue, but yet here they have a rollout of an issue of equal pay that didn t quite work out the way intended. christine, were you going to say something? i m stunned by his answer. i ll say this. depensds. look, everyone thinks you should be paid the same amount for the same work. there s no that s a bipartisan kind of sentiment. it s not just one switch you can flip and suddenly women and men will get paid the same for the same job. there are a lot of different factors at play here. the courts have been arguing about it for years. you look at, for example, experience, the networks women have. shorter tenure, jim mentioned, on the same job. off ramps they take to have children or differ priorities. women still seen as the caregivers. still a legacy of discrimination, still women, jobs that are seen more as the kind of jobs that are women s work. even in those jobs, jobs for a long time seen as women s w
relegated to women s work. if you look at commercials, for example, it s always the women who are mopping, right? i don t know about you, but i haven t been mopping very much for quite a long time. so it does not reflect the reality of my life in any way shape or form. but that s still what young girls see. that s what young boys see. therefore, that s what they think about women in leadership. so let s talk about take the lead. the challenge and sort of the goal. one of the things you talk about sequel pay. that s obviously become an issue that a lot of people are talking about, both as a political issue, frankly, given we re seeing more participation by women as a political force. do you think that s going to be a key issue in the 2014 elections? i certainly hope it will be. and it should be for a lot of different reasons. first of all, women are now the primary breadwinners in almost 40% of families. women are equal breadwinners or important breadwinners in the majority of famil