that s not the case. was that ever the case? yes, when i was on probation. you re not compelled to legally. not legally. are you continuing to do that? i m giving 100% of the books and the movie. you can t say how many copies of a book will sell in 15, 20 years i think it will be many millions of dollars. i m really happy about that. when i asked you earlier about shame. you said you didn t feel shame. but there are real people, many, many, many people, teens of thousands who lost a lot of money, if not everything to your company and to you. that s not true, though. why is that not true? because we were calling rich people. we were not calling. well, an architect in mystic, connecticut. he lost half of his life
disturbed me, and i think it sunshine disturbed a lot of people when you see it. were you just too high it wasn t that i was so high, it doesn t start that way. it started we shaved a guy s head for $10,000. within a year, a head shaving is $50. the price went down. $50? that s what happens, with insanity. what seems amazing at first, becomes commonplace after a while. you don t lose your soul all at once. when i lost my ethical way, it did not start off i m sure we ll get to that later, it s like these tiny steps over the lining before you do it. each time he moves around, you are doing something you never thought you would do. it seems okay. yeah, let s shave a guy s head, he needed the money, it all made sense. and then a year later, flash forward, and it s completely off the rails.
while. you don t lose your soul all at once. when i lost my ethical way, it did not start off i m sure we ll get to that later, it s like these tiny steps over the lining before you do it. each time he moves around, you are doing something you never thought you would do. it seems okay. yeah, let s shave a guy s head, he needed the money, it all made sense. and then a year later, flash forward, and it s completely off the rails. dwarfs being thrown on to velcro dart boards? i wasn t there at the time. you heard it happened? i don t think it s appropriate for sure. obviously i think it would be humorous to watch it in an outside sort of way. it was said there was so much sex in your office you had to have a sign saying, sex free zone.
on a human level have you ever met any of them? have you ever met one of your victims? i have not. why not? no one has sought me out. why haven t you sought them out? i don t want to intrude on anyone s life. that s a copout. no, i don t think it s appropriate. it will be part of your self-redemption to track some of these people down, to know some of their names, know what they re saying about you, if you called them up and said, i actually would like to talk to you, i would like to apologize to you personally for what happened? i never considered it before, i think a better way for me is over the next 50 years, continue to go around the world and speak, all the money that flows in, i think actions speak louder than words, by what i m doing here, turning over 100% of the profits, is probably the most genuine thing i can do. in a way, what you re doing now i don t mean this to be too cynical. you re doing the right thing as best you can. what i would say if you
would like to meet that person. what about someone losing half their life savings. again, i he exists, he s an architect in connecticut. that s why all of this money is going into the fund. he lost half or all i think it makes a big difference. if you take an old person who doesn t have much and you take all their money. i don t think what i did is right, it s wrong and disgusting. what do your parents think about all this? i m fortunate that i have amazing parents that love me unconditionally. my mom is one of the most ethical person in the world. she went back to law school at 65. what has she said to you. we love you and we support you, and we re here for you in anyway we can be here to help you pick up the pieces and get back on track. what else did she say? no judgment. no criticism?