republican and democratic leaders. the proposal falls short of the more than $60 billions that the house voted on last month to slash from funding levellers, however the offer is characterized as an opening bid. house speaker john boehner telling the wall street journal he is determined to offer a budget that curbs social security and medicare despite the political risks. according to the congressional newspaper the hill boehner assured president obama he will not attack the administration if he makes a proposal to reform entitlement spending. still the president has reportedly not taken boehner up on the deal yet to touch the so-called third rail of american politics. after 17 days of round the clock demonstrations, pro union protesters are no longer spending the night in the wisconsin capitol building. about 50 protesters left peacefully last night after a judge ruled while people can have unrestricted access to the building during normal business
but someone went in their pockets to make these signs. quite a few of those are around here. a lot of collective mentality. i don t know what s being said in all of these different meetings they have. little speaker forums that pop up all around the capitol. more of a collective mentality. i can t get a finger on the degree of organization here. bill: we don t know who is making the signs or who is behind the chanting or anything like that. you assume or you suspect that there is some kind of an organized deal. now, how left wing though look, there is a difference between working class teachers, cops, you know, whatever. wanting to maintain what they have. we all understand that, okay? and then organized far left people who seize upon something like this to promote a far wider agenda. can you break the crowd down? how many are professional left wingers and how many are just regular folks? it s tough to tell. when you get to the weekends, you get a lot of out of towners, a lot of
bill: that sounds reasonable. as the factor reported on friday the millions for a million federal workers don t have full collective bargaining rights. governor walker wants wisconsin workers to have what the feds have so president obama is in a tight spot. the whole thing is a big mess. it comes down to one very simple equation. the united states can no longer afford to pay pensions and benefits to public union workers at the scale they are now. it is that clear. talking points hopes to compromise can be reached in wisconsin and quickly because the public labor situation is getting out of control all over the country. and that s the memo. now for the top story tonight. one of the guys who has experienced pro-anger firsthand is fox news correspondent mike tobin who joins us now from madison, wisconsin. you have been there for about a week, right, mike? you know, you have seen it how long? a little more about. a week and a half, almost two weeks. bill: okay. how rough has it been
bargaining, collective bargaining rights. and the idea of taking them away doesn t poll very well. now, the polls are mixed on this issue, but they have made some headway with the public. i would say this about it, bill. that in wisconsin, the governor and the republicans out there, if they are going to come out ahead in the long run on this fight and even perhaps on the short run, they need to see this through. they need to pass this measure. they need to curtail these bargaining collective bargaining rights to some extent. they need to win. if they do, i think the effect of it will show up in the budget. it will show up in the budgetary picture in wisconsin. and it will be in the long term a victory for the republican and for the republicans and republican governor out there. if they back down, however, if they if he ultimately reach some kind of compromise in which they are seen as backing down it, will give a bad name to the cause and i think they will be seen as having lost an
criminal after this is over? you know, look, first, let s get him out of power. if somebody wants to take him. bill: we should take him. the panam jet was ours. i agree. you are right about that. bill: all right. on the wisconsin thing, just real quick, less than a minute. what should walker do now? he has got to do something. those guys aren t coming back to the state. what should he doof? i think he is doing the right thing by waiting until this bipartisan fiscal board says he is out of time in order to handle the financing problem of the state. then he ought to go ahead and allow people to be fired and then consider or be laid off and then he ought to consider separating these two measures so they can go ahead and give the state the local and school districts the tool to handle their collective bargaining problems. and then let the democrats continue to be out and they can t pass the budget repair bill but they can pass the collective bargaining piece of it and help the lo