criminal after this is over? >> you know, look, first, let's get him out of power. if somebody wants to take him. >> bill: we should take him. the panam jet was ours. >> i agree. you are right about that. >> bill: all right. on the wisconsin thing, just real quick, less than a minute. what should walker do now? he has got to do something. those guys aren't coming back to the state. what should he doof? >> i think he is doing the right thing by waiting until this bipartisan fiscal board says he is out of time in order to handle the financing problem of the state. then he ought to go ahead and allow people to be fired and then consider or be laid off and then he ought to consider separating these two measures so they can go ahead and give the state the local and school districts the tool to handle their collective bargaining problems. and then let the democrats continue to be out and they can't pass the budget repair bill but they can pass the collective bargaining piece of it and help the local -- >> bill: if he does lay off people he will be blamed for that. >> he won't be blamed for it the 14 legislators refusing to come back to the state. >> bill: you think so public opinion would go that way.