recording. you know, rarely do we actually catch somebody on an audio recording committing a crime. you know, it reminds me of some of the cases i tried that had wiretap evidence where we caught the defendant committing the crime. when he said, listen, just find me 11,780 votes and basically corruptly declare me the winner, he doesn t also have to say, oh, and by the way i know that violates georgia state election laws, soliciting election interference. so this really is i think a motion that might play better in the court of public opinion than it is likely to play in a court of law down in georgia. okay, former assistant u.s. attorney for the district of columbia, glenn kirschner, thank you so much for joining us. i suspect we re going to hear an awful lot from you during the course of this election year because these two stories are going to keep intersecting.
it s precedent setting cases. clint watts west point graduate, army veteran, former fbi special agent, and a distinguished fellow at the foreign policy research institute. and maybe, most importantly, all three dear friends of our show. glenn, this is a lot. what are you looking for tomorrow? what does the committee need to do? so, i think the committee needs to stay the course because we are learning things with each public hearing. i think a keen interest will be what rusty bowers has to say about donald trump and rudy giuliani s phone call to apply pressure, you know, to further their fake electoral scheme. because, what we re seeing, steph, is a pattern emerging. i mean, donald trump calling brad raffensperger, and making that now, infamous statement of, you know, just find 11,780 votes. and steph, that s captured on an audio recording, which reminds me of when i was trying legal cases, and we had wiretap evidence, you know?
institute. and maybe, most importantly, all three dear friends of our show. glenn, this is a lot. what are you looking for tomorrow? what does the committee need to do? so, i think the committee needs to stay the course because we are learning things with each public hearing. i think a keen interest will be what rusty bowers has to say about donald trump and rudy giuliani s phone call to apply pressure, you know, to further their fake electoral scheme. because, what we re seeing, steph, is a pattern emerging. i mean, donald trump calling brad raffensperger, and making that now, infamous statement of, you know, just find 11,780 votes. and steph, that s captured on an audio recording, which reminds me of when i was trying rico cases, and we had wiretap evidence, you know? i would call that a just press play trial, because you could play the very crime on an audio recording for the jury. these are legal cases i would
so the gop has been saying the steele dossier can t underline any of this but the steele dossier was not what started this, according to this memo. bobby, i want to get your take. what do you make of all of this? well, you know, in addition to being an agent for 27 years, i m also an attorney. and i was really interested in seeing what this memo was, what it looks like. quite frankly, early in my career, i did a lot of title 3 applications, wiretap applications. one of the always routine things when we got them to trial was a pretrial motion to suppress the evidence of the wiretap. and they would challenge a wiretap affidavit all the time. we were always successful. this four-page or five-page memo reads very much to me like a motion to suppress wiretap evidence. and we were always successful because you always did verify and corroborate a lot of the information. you worked with many different sources and conducted surveillance and did all your