political debate get stheomethi. you guys sound so reasonable! that s why we re no longer in office. let me this is ping-pong politics. i call it ping-pong politics because no one s moving and in the meantime, people are getting hurt. this is what the american people are seeing, seeing people go back and forth and push and shove. and this is about actually getting something done and getting things accomplished. and not having the administrative branch take over the legislative authority. listen, you guys, each of you, in some ways got in trouble for speaking out and speaking up, in this very reasonable way that you re going. and it almost became like a you have to be punished for doing that. i want to know the honest truth. what percentage of other republicans actually agree with what you re saying, but were just too chicken to say it themselves? what s the percentage? tell the truth! to the van jones show. you ve got to tell the truth. zero percent?
just seems to be a trajectory on which these parties are celebrating on the basis of race. what needs to happen on the republican side? we need to make sure we go out and talk over republican in the country. republicans have been in the forefront of promoting education, choice, and innovation. charter schools. giving minority kids, for the most part, more choices and opportunities that they would have if they lived in a white suburban area. and yet, we haven t gone out and really fought to make sure that black and hispanic parents, asian parents know that we re in the forefront. hey, listen, republicans have been whether you like education reform ideas or not, you ve been there, you ve been trying to make the situation better for students in those communities. also in criminal justice reform. but isn t trump a big part of the problem. and when you have a president who is saying, you know, s-hole countries and all that kind of stuff, you know, alexandria ocasio-cortez says, the gu
uncertainty about their future. along with a whole host of other issues, related to immigration. i think that that conversation needs to happen. what does it mean to secure our border? we see members of congress who are representing districts along the border, democrats and republicans who are saying, a wall makes sense, maybe in some areas, but in other areas, we have better technology that will accomplish the objective of securing our border. and this is the problem with so many issues in politics today and in washington, is you have leaders who get stuck in these partisan arguments, without actually recognizing what is the objective. yeah. this is something i learned in the military. what you know from day one, unless you know what your objective is, you will never have a strategy or a path to accomplish that objective. and that s the problem here. i think trump just makes it hard for people s brains to function. just kind of drives people nuts. you ve actually been able t
oftentimes the media grabs hold of an outlier and says, that s what the party stands for? or what donald trump says is what the party stands for? no? i would go back to the grassroots activists, many of whom are doing real things in their communities to bring people together. how do you see it? look, when i was around last year and you heard comments from people like blake farren thatrf and he would, you know, the use of taxpayer funds to pay off sexual harassment cases, i was a republican who said, he needs to go, right? and i think that it s the same thing. we need other republicans saying, we don t believe in this. he has to go. this is not this doesn t represent who we are. so i think we need a little bit more of that. yeah. you know, taking a step back, you know, usually when a party has a big setback, there s a period of reflection. i haven t seen much reflection yet i ve had a lot of time to
here, the next day it s here, and you don t ever form the battle lines to have a real debate. part of it is, it s not too much power, but too much fluid power floating in different directions on any given day. what do you think? a lot of mixed messages. i think that we should end the shutdown right now, but we should also recognize that both sides in this debate have something credible to say. the democrats are saying, oh, we need to use more technology. i don t think there are any republicans that disagree with that. and republicans are saying, we have certain places, that 700 miles that we authorized in 2006, it s not fully completed and we do need additional border, barrier, wall, whatever you want to call it, but we should also deal with things like daca. and mia is right. we had legislation earlier this year. and it would address all of these issues. and i think ultimately, the basis of a compromise on this is to do some immigration reform like daca, but also make sure that we