they are insulated through a rigged system. there is closed primaries and the incentive is to act as hyper partisan. even if we get the likes of john bolton who has been a republican far longer than president trump, by friday we ll have had 11, i believe, people testify. are republicans really going to make up this witch hunt argument. you saw liz cheney defending alexander vindman saying this n this man is a patriot. you think they will still side with the president? yes, this is what liz cheney will ultimately say. but what the president did is not impeachment. i hope this is like nixon. what happened in the clinton impeachment, and i know a lot of people think the president
vote. joining the conversation, brian bennet. felipe ryan, john mechum are back with me. john bolton s advisor testified. she a lifetime republican, and every person we have seen testify in the last few weeks is not there to grand stand. the last place they want to be is stephing on the hill. there is a lot of surprise at the nsc staff. mostly the political ones, that have agreed to go in and testify. if you have been a professional for that long, in the era, republican or democrat, leading up to president trump, you have some weight about yit about you
so much of this is not just about what the president said and what we know about it, but what we don t know about it. and the white house s handling of the phone calls over the summer just a few months ago. so what do you have? we re trying to figure out what exactly happened. why certain things may have been admitted from the transcript memo, and who in the white house, or in the chief of staff office, was involved trying to sequester information. okay, eisenberg was the story that they went to about concerns and pressure that sondland was putting on. look, a lot of this comes back to the question of what are the lawyers doing? are they doing what the lawyers are supposed to be doing? and is he saying okay, let me
national security was always his first concern. so you a republican, a conservative, and a lawyer who many friends say has a very sharp memory as well. a knife wielder who described rudy giuliani as a hand grenade. yeah, and a drug dealer. i have dealt with john bolton and he exciting. it would be fireworks. it would be something in it for everyone. frankly, if i were the white house i would prefer for both to be out there right now for a simple reason. you had mentioned before are we falling into republican talking points. the republicans have fallen into republican talking points as if there s any committee. the president is off the process. he s sean hannity could be speaker of the house he wouldn t care. john bolton would make them back
resolution. you will hear republicans continue to complain that they don t have enough minority procedural rights. if they were upset with that, they should not have followed trump off of the cliff. they offered republicans the ability to subpoena other process rights, but it is all at the discretion of democrats, and i think they will keep a tight reign on the permissions they give republicans. those public hearings, they are going to be critically important and here can is why. republicans are on an inevitable trajectory. they are going to argue that if you believe the president s conduct is wrong and if there is any condemnation there t should not rise to the level of impeachment.