>> so much of this is not just about what the president said and what we know about it, but what we don't know about it. and the white house's handling of the phone calls over the summer just a few months ago. >> so what do you have? >> we're trying to figure out what exactly happened. why certain things may have been admitted from the transcript memo, and who in the white house, or in the chief of staff office, was involved trying to sequester information. >> okay, eisenberg was the story that they went to about concerns and pressure that sondland was putting on. >> look, a lot of this comes back to the question of what are the lawyers doing? are they doing what the lawyers are supposed to be doing? and is he saying okay, let me