expect about an hour or so of deliberation. or at least let me rephrase that, a day of deliberation. i ll tell you what, after o.j. simpson and nine months of trial, and only up to three hours of actual deliberation before their not guilty verdict, that theory is heavily tested. in this particular case, i will say this, a lot of people were saying we re at the 15-hour, 5-minute mark where the clock stopped and a verdict has been reached and a lot of people are saying, wow, they sure are deliberating a long time. sometimes that s subjective from those who believe it would be a short deliberation because the case was seemingly so strong for the prosecution. but i ll be honest with you, i ve seen deliberations all over the map. i expected it could have been possible to have a verdict yesterday. and here we are today, just day four, but only hour 15, only one hour or so on that first day so the fact we re awaiting under two hours until that verdict is reached and i should remind you,
would go if it is a call like that, it goes to a dispatcher where they keep records. if our manager says there is no record of that, they re pretty thorough about these things, keeping the record of every call and every address. every record of every call. we have a computer system where we can put in an address in and that s updated every year, it has been around for a little while. unless there is a call for service or 911 tape, i can t see it being true. but you never know what happened out there. they re telling us that it didn t happen. again, another example, a neighbor called, saw some fishy, 2011, no one was home, as we have seen, there are boarded up windows police didn t go inside. do we know you may not know why not in this case? but at what point did police bang down a door and go in? you need a a search warrant. you need probable cause, something to go into the house. we re on the other side of the law then if we re not following our rules out here as far
morning and they re trying to get into the courtroom. if you look over here, there is a group of people wedged in the corner behind the police lines. these are folks that want to be inside the courtroom once this verdict is read in just about an hour and a half. the sheriff deputy is outside the courthouse there too. it is hard to explain. every now and then one of these cases comes up that really captures people s imagination. and hooks them. and this is one of those cases. we have seen the ratings on our sister network hln have been through the roof for last few months. people are absolutely dialed into this case and we re seeing it outside the courthouse right now and we ll see it inside the courtroom in just about an hour and a half when the verdict is read. and, of course, as jeffrey was talking about, this could be just the first phase. if they come back with a first degree murder, if they come back guilty on a first degree murder, this jury is not finished. they ll have to go to
one a prosecutor, former federal prosecutor at that, sunny hostin on the right of your screen live in philadelphia right now. and dannie savlas, a defense attorney. sunny, first to you, as a prosecutor, you look at this through a different prism. it is hard not to think that 15 hours, according to some, is actually quite short, a deliberation period n notwithstanding the course over four days, but there was an enormous amount of evidence. i think that s right. and certainly you try to read the tea leaves and determine what is enough? what isn t enough? we know with casey anthony, they deliberated, know, one full day, less than 11 hours, and there was an acquittal there. we know there was an acquittal in the o.j. case after two hours. i think 15 hours, four days of deliberations, means this jury certainly looked at these charges. this is i think a case that was
of court watchers and onlookers have begun to amass. i see them behind you, ted. give me a sense of what is happening where you are. reporter: well, as you mentioned, people are getting word that there is a verdict, and they are starting to come here to the courthouse. a lot of people were actually camped out for the past few days, people have been camped out, waiting for a verdict. a lot of cameras and microphones and a lot of people in the public from the public who have been monitoring this case, not only from phoenix, but around the country. we talked to somebody from kentucky a bit ago. this is kathy brown, she s from phoenix. kathy has been here for most of the trial and been watching it for all of it. and as you can see, she s very invested in it with her justice for travis necklace, the bracelet, picture of travis on her button here. and kathy brown has something that a lot of these court watchers would love to have, that s juan martinez s signature. going to into a little