waiting for him to come out and give us a verdict. he didn t give us a verdict. he said it s up to congress to have the verdict. well, if he had said it more explicitly, that would be one thing. he didn t say it quite that explicitly. we want to investigate the president but you can t indict him if you finding anything wrong and you can t tell congress to impeach him because that s exceeding your mandate. i was thinking he could have told us that part of the process. under the law that has now expired, an independent counsel was required, not just enabled, but required to go to congress and say i found things that i think could be high crimes and misdemeanors. that s what ken starr did 20 years ago. what was robert mueller s judgment with regard to issues? we don t really know. except he couldn t exonerate. he couldn t exonerate. well, i think that frustration is legitimate. we had this cloud hanging over the president. whether or not you like him or not, there s a cloud ha
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expect about an hour or so of deliberation. or at least let me rephrase that, a day of deliberation. i ll tell you what, after o.j. simpson and nine months of trial, and only up to three hours of actual deliberation before their not guilty verdict, that theory is heavily tested. in this particular case, i will say this, a lot of people were saying we re at the 15-hour, 5-minute mark where the clock stopped and a verdict has been reached and a lot of people are saying, wow, they sure are deliberating a long time. sometimes that s subjective from those who believe it would be a short deliberation because the case was seemingly so strong for the prosecution. but i ll be honest with you, i ve seen deliberations all over the map. i expected it could have been possible to have a verdict yesterday. and here we are today, just day four, but only hour 15, only one hour or so on that first day so the fact we re awaiting under two hours until that verdict is reached and i should remind you,
outside, but, you know, it has been a lot of time and we pray that our verdict is what we are hoping. reporter: and, ashleigh, courtroom seats will be at a premium. you mentioned what will happen inside that courtroom. the actual verdict will be read by the clerk. but you described it perfectly what will happen. you ve been in this courtroom. you know there is limited seating. so people like kathy are here, hoping that they will get an opportunity to see this unfold because they have been inside that courtroom and watching this for so long. this is one of those cases, ashleigh, that for whatever reason, has struck a chord with hundreds of thousands of people around the country, and they have just been absolutely glued to it. it has become a bit of a soap opera. and we re going to find out what happens in just over an hour, whether this jury of eight men and four women will come back with a guilty or not guilty verdict on the first degree murder charges, which would, of course, then p
going to get the death penalty. we ll know obviously today whether she is even eligible for it. but the idea the evidence is far too overwhelming to allow for a verdict of not guilty on everything. but the question now becomes does she get convicted of first degree murder, and then you would move to a penalty phase, which would decide whether she would get life in prison or the death penalty. jeff toobin, don t go too far from the home. ted rowlands, another voice i want to bring in. he s outside this courthouse in phoenix. ted, set the scene for me. reporter: well, brooke, as you can imagine, it is a bit chaotic. word of a verdict and everybody jumps up and sprints over here not only the media, but people