according to our law is an unaccompanied minor goes through a system. if you come with your parents, you have this question to ask. if a parent crosses the board illegally with their child, the child has to go through a program. the adult has broken a law. maybe we give them a mull began and let them come in. maybe we don t handle the situation. the problem is you create the new set of daca at the border every day as jim went through the numbers with you. the thousands of families that come to the border and the biggest problem with our immigration laws is we actually don t execute them fully. we always have a population of people because we re good people, tolerant people. we were. yes know that people we were. that s what catch and release was. it was more humane to allow the families to stay together and hope they show up for the legal process. every time someone criticizes this country, i get prickly. our government gives more for humanitarian reasons around the world tha
conclusions. we re going to break down the other findings in a minute. let s lead with our hearts. immigrant families being separated at the border and the trump administration has a new defense saying the bible justifies this. let s bring in jim jordan. congressman, always a pleasure. we ll talk about immigration, talk about the ig report. good for you? yeah. and first, congratulations on the new show. good to be with you. thank you. good to have you as part of the conversation. appreciate you taking the opportunity. what s going on at the border? do you believe this is the right way to enforce the law? what i think is we should enforce the law and do what the american people elected us to do, put the kind of immigration policy forward that was front and center in the campaign, the mandate of the election, which is build the wall end chain migration and reform the acai sum policies we have currently as well as get rid to the sanctuaries and also deal with the daca population.
match slap, the proof that it s not about the law is the law has stayed the same and the enforcement policy has changed. they re making a decision. you say the remedy is change the law, make it better. okay. but i just had jim jordan on. he represents a significant portion of your party that says we won t do just that. we ll only do everything at once. this is a tactical question. you have democrats who basically held all legislation hostage to fixing the problem with daca. right? i think that s also a mistake. i think with immigration the big problem, there are lots of problems with the immigration laws execution. we have to always put it together. when we see problems and problems that both sides might see needs to be fixed, i m okay with taking them as rifle shots. basically the law prevents the children from going through the legal process with their parents. what we do to try to be humane
allow people to cut in line. let s have a process. i m a pro immigration republican. i don t want to cut back on the numbers. i believe people coming from mexico and other countries can make america even better. i want to make sure the process is not disorderly like we have today. i think it s a shame. this is still disorderly because they re losing track of kids. it s the law. but how they re enforcing it is their choice. that s right. and they are assuming that the folks that are at the border right now somehow are not asylum seekers and not running from tragic situations. that s a broad assumption. i m going back to where i started. humanity is the order of the day. that could be any of us trying to save our families. it s about humanity, and it is about justice. keeping these families together, the administration can fix this. president trump can fix this, and absolutely the congress needs to fix this. and top blaming president obama. do the right thing. do what jesus would
in the morning by him screaming on the front lawn. he s watering the lawn. eight ice agents take them away. they don t explain why. he s being held. the daughter is on tonight. we ll dig into it and see what s going on with immigration in this country. and so the issue winds up being look, let s say he s not assume for the sake of argument he s not in the country legally. it then goes down to how are we enforcing it? one of the things getting ignored by the proponents to the policy is they say this is a democrat law. this is a 2008 he s a legal permanent resident. okay. important fact. that makes it even more of an incisive question. how do you choose to enforce the law? there s been a change in policy which is we re going all out. we re going to treat every one of these people like they re a felon. we re separating every family. forget about if it s asylum or not. that s a choice. it s not a must under the law. fair point.