fight waste and fraud. i think this conversation will be a very important part of what we debate. jenna: you ve been in office since 2006, is that right, senator. elected in 2006, correct. jenna: do you feel responsible for some of the wasteful spending that is happening in government? you know what i think everyone bears some responsibility, and sometimes it s not until you reach a point where you re debating in a more intensive way, spending and deficit reduction. i think there is a lot of folks in ar washington who can bear se of the responsibility. i do believe that we are arriving now at a consensus not only about what to do about this year but to focus on next year s budget and focus very hard on cutting spending but not injuring the job creation that creates the growth. jenna: that is important for our viewers, just really quick here a final question about the gao report. they are estimating around $200 billion of wasteful