about this. dahlia, good to see you. thank you for being here. this story gets stranger and stranger by the day, but what we didn t get to talk about last night when we went in depth was leonard leo. this guy is the where s waldo of conservative justices. he s always around. he s in the picture, he s there. so to the extent this was not a random fishing trip the guy in the middle, ostensibly the guy always in the middle is leonard leo. right, he s the travel agent who has no interest in reshaping the court, to be sure. he just likes traveling with justices and billionaires. i mean it s really amazing that quote you just read, that statement he gave to propublica talking about the woke dark money left here, and the idea that he doesn t have an interest in reshaping the court, i mean the reason the court is hearing those cases we talked about at the beginning rehearing
preferences. and quote. that particular peculiar statement prompted this response from dahlia lithwick, a senior editor first flight, who writes about the hilarity of hearing dark money from woke billionaires from the guy who is connecting on woke billionaires to justice is for travel and influence. it s amazing the level of projection. and quote. what is left to do except to talk to her about this? senior editor for slate the host of the biggest podcast. good to see you, thanks for being here. this story gets stranger and stranger by the day. what we didn t get to talk about yesterday when we went in-depth was leonard leo. this guy is the where s waldo of conservative justices. he s always around. he s in the picture, he s there. to the extent that this is not a random fishing trip that alito and this billionaire went, on the guy in the middle of ostensibly the guy that was always in the middle, leonard leo. she s the travel agent, he
even hold up with the arguments that clarence thomas is trying to use, which shows there s no defense for either of their actions, and makes an ethics case, or reform at the athletes. it s never a liberal donor or bin onnair flying alito around to alaska or buying houses for clarence thomas and his mother, and the where s waldo in all of this reporting is leonard leo. the longtime leader of the federalist society, attended and helped to organize the vacation. he invited singer to join, according to a person familiar with the trip, and leo had recently played an important role in the justice s confirmation to the court. they were both major donors. they are all in the same boat, rows in the same direction from
it s like them to finally get back all of the documents. that looks like the trump presidential library to me. at the end of the day, if you think about it, this is 18 months in order to get back everything, including having lawyers lie in attestations, stating that there was nothing left for him. that s where you have the obstruction case from. this is more than just an espionage act. michael, paragraph 72 of this indictment indicates that floated several of trump s boxes, along with other items on an aircraft that flew trump and his family north for the summer. should special counsel jack smith s be checking out already happened. so, katie, you may remember, i said it on your show, i started on the code wallace s show reverend al, as i said on every msnbc show that had me on. you need to play that game, where is waldo, except is not where s waldo, it s where
distinguished honors. where? he was federally indicted for a state charge and now a federal charge. i have to agree with congresswoman dean, it is a very very well written one. and it is an easy indictment to read. i mean, anyone can read it. you don t need to be a lawyer. it tells a story. and the story is so damning. forgetting about donald trump, it is damning to america. something else that congresswoman dean brought up about donald trump and in the indictment, five documents, that is also we go back to 99. you know him a long time. that is only the 500 documents that they know of. i have said on your show all long time ago, they need to play like where s waldo game. and you need to go to every single location that donald has been to. his kids wherever he went. you need to follow the donald