you manage situations. you work them almost like george schultz used to use gardening metaphors. do a little bit of weeding here and a little bit of pruning there. you don t solve the north korea problem. you put it in a box you can live with. over time maybe other forces will weaken the regime or change the dynamics which is something different than this president is prepared to do. tom friedman? tom respond. i totally agree. i think that will be absolutely the dilemma, what richard said, that trump always promises you bigger, better, more i got something nobody has got. i just don t see that happening with north korea. i also believe and this was referred to earlier in the show that for china, joe, the north korea negotiation, the trade negotiation, they are just one big power negotiation with the united states about shaping, you know, the future,
let s go on to ian lee, live in cairo for us. ian, what do you have. reporter: just to reiterate, what richard said, a lot of caution. we have been sifting through a lot of different rumors that have been coming out here in local media. and from other sources. the picture from what we re hearing from government officials here is that about 20 minutes into this flight, when the plane was a little over 150 miles north of sharm el sheikh, the departure, where the plane departed that is when the plane encountered some difficulties. and what that is, we do not know. we re hoping to learn more once they do recover the black boxes. we do know egyptian emergency personnel are on the site of the crash. this is the northern-central part of sinai peninsula, this is a mountainous terrain.
their rights are and what is in the cargo holds of the planes. passengers as of now have no right to know what is in the cargo hold of the plane they are flying. they can t ask about the acars system on board the aircraft, correct? that s right. they have no way to find out, no way to ask. it s difficult for them to get information about how their airline stacks up against others. all those questions about a carrier that would help you judge whether you want to fly on that carrier and whether it s safe are locked away in the you know the records of the carrier. if you ask the federal aviation administration they will not produce it either. they say it s proprietary information. and richard, it s important to understand what we still do not know. given the news from inmarsat and uk officials and the malaysian government. we ll hear more at 12:30 a.m.
search. but i don t know how they would identify for certain that the pieces that they are looking at and seeing are from the aircraft without having picked them up and put them on a ship for inspection. but maybe that s what it is going to be. that would be helpful news at this point. richard, you heard from jeffrey as well. you know him. well-placed gentleman. known jeffrey for many years. there s none better in the industry. i don t know if he is right. it might be that david johnson is feeling the need to give an overview and a route map forward now we ve had some significant information and he wants to talk through the various options over the next three to five weeks onwards. but i don t think it is out of the realms of possibility he is going to identify some parts.
pre-programmed waypoint changes of last week. we all reported. that turned out to be false. now the malaysians are getting the bad rap for that because everyone said they said it. but they put out the statement on saturday saying that the acars that after 1:07 nothing happened. we have to separate fact from myth from what we believe has been said. and the truth is at this point we have absolutely no idea officially what took place. to add on what richard said, this is an accident investigation. there is a lot of proprietary information that in the states and malaysia probably has the same system, is that it s an organized investigation process and a lot of that information is not going to be released to the public because of the interpretation of the data and what you are doing to the family and friends. the countries are not wanting