you manage situations. you work them almost like george schultz used to use gardening metaphors. do a little bit of weeding here and a little bit of pruning there. you don't solve the north korea problem. you put it in a box you can live with. over time maybe other forces will weaken the regime or change the dynamics which is something different than this president is prepared to do. >> tom friedman? tom respond. >> i totally agree. i think that will be absolutely the dilemma, what richard said, that trump always promises you bigger, better, more i got something nobody has got. i just don't see that happening with north korea. i also believe and this was referred to earlier in the show that for china, joe, the north korea negotiation, the trade negotiation, they are just one big power negotiation with the united states about shaping, you know, the future,