down or moving their operations to the far west in the country, abby, and many nations now, scores of them really, are saying to their citizens to get out of ukraine. so it s a real conundrum for the ukrainian authorities because they don t want to see their economy collapse under them as a result of the presence of russian troops, but of course that very presence does rather imply they may be moved across the border and begin an invasion of some kind at any time, abby. it is so stark, the scene of, you know, a calm wintry day right behind you and the warnings of really imminent war coming out of western capital. sam kiley in ukraine, thanks so much for being with us this morning. and joining us now at the table to share their reporting and their insights is margaret talev of axios, jonathan martin of the new york times, zolan kanno-youngs of the new york times as well and the new yorker s susan glasser. susan, i want to start with you, the president and vladimir putin
getting access to money? can you bring down tough economic sanctions to make sure the russian economy stops functioning, can you kick out the sons and daughters of russian oligarchs who are studying at universities in the west? we will stay in kyiv and talk to maria, who awoke to the sound of shelling in the capital this morning. maria is a research director at the european expert association, which focuses on international security. how are you? well, the situation is very worrying, i am actually in kharkiv, which is the second largest city in ukraine, on the east, 1.5 million city, and we have here major shelling today in the morning, and now it is also distant shelling that we hear, and our military reports that they have already shut down
flank. you might say that putin had achieved exactly the opposite of what he wanted. he achieved exactly the opposite of what he wanted. achieved exactly the opposite of what he wanted. ., , what he wanted. he had strengthened nato, he what he wanted. he had strengthened nato. he has what he wanted. he had strengthened nato, he has demonstrated what he wanted. he had strengthened nato, he has demonstrated to - what he wanted. he had strengthened nato, he has demonstrated to the - nato, he has demonstrated to the whole world why we need nato. anders fo . h whole world why we need nato. anders fogh rasmussen. whole world why we need nato. anders fogh rasmussen, we whole world why we need nato. anders fogh rasmussen, we have whole world why we need nato. anders fogh rasmussen, we have to whole world why we need nato. anders fogh rasmussen, we have to leave - whole world why we need nato. anders fogh rasmussen, we have to leave it i fogh rasmussen, we have to leave it there bu
introduce un peacekeepers and the same should be done now for ukraine. ukraine cannot withstand the largest army in europe on its own. are ukraine cannot withstand the largest army in europe on its own. army in europe on its own. are you confident you army in europe on its own. are you confident you will army in europe on its own. are you confident you will get army in europe on its own. are you confident you will get the - army in europe on its own. are you confident you will get the support i confident you will get the support you need? we have seen in one western capital after another this morning statements of support, statements that more sanctions will be imposed. do you sense that the world is standing behind ukraine now? , :, : :, world is standing behind ukraine now? , , world is standing behind ukraine now? , now? the political support is always there and has now? the political support is always there and has always now? the political support is always there and ha
to stand for ukraine, notjust with more robust sanctions but also with military presence here on the ground. we need an emergency resolution of the un general assembly, not of the security council because we have the biggest aggressive state in the world in another organisation. the general assembly made the decision to introduce un peacekeepers in previous times and the same should be done now for ukraine. eyre previous times and the same should be done now for ukraine. be done now for ukraine. are you confident he be done now for ukraine. are you confident he will be done now for ukraine. are you confident he will get be done now for ukraine. are you confident he will get the - be done now for ukraine. are you confident he will get the support | confident he will get the support you need? we have seen western capital after another, statements of support, statements that more sanctions will be imposed. do you sense that the world is standing behind ukraine now? the political