he will go to papal cloistering and he will go to live at his home and then as the home at the v vatican is ren na renovated, then he will return there. and we asked what that will look like going forward. we are joined by jesuit father james martin, and also joining me is sister camille who is a commentator for 1010 wens radio here in new york. father, i want to start with you about what becomes possible in this moment. how open is the group of, are the group of cardinals to a different direction for the catholic church? well, anything is possible with the holy spirit. they are very open, but what we have to remember is that all of