white house chief of staff, the chief of staff was not available to that have conversation. do you read anything into that? well, we don t know the facts. it could be that he truly wasn t available. i have to tell you, i m actually pleased that two lawyers were talking with each other. because maybe there is some sense of policy and protocol and avoiding a double standard and all the repercussions of carving out the exception for just jared kushner when you have about 30 people at the white house who are similarly situated. so maybe it was a good thing. and now we ve got the white house counsel weighing in on this. it may actually help kelly, it may actually help kelly say i had counsel advise me to the contrary and had to do it this way. ken thomas, really quickly, the president said today he has confidence that john kelly will do the right thing. is there a sense that there s some sort of implicit threat in there, that the president has informed john kelly what he believes the ri
about whether the republican party has become the party of president trump, i think, i submit to you exhibit a, which was what you saw today. the kind of speech he gave there, the audience loved it, and that s suggesting that this is the kind of gathering and the kind of party unfortunately moving this that direction. the question is how much of this will be lasting, is this a temporary thing? we won t know the answers to those things for some time. but using that speech and talking about immigration broadly in terms of the themes was very troubling to me as the son of immigrants. jonathan allen, you were at cpac with me as well this week, do you agree with his assessment of the different kind of atmosphere? absolutely. i agree with you about the atmosphere, just to go back to something he said very quickly, i think it is very important there was no distinction there. there was no distinction between legal immigration and illegal immigration, legal immigrants and the illegal immigr
moving this that direction. the question is how much of this will be lasting, is this a temporary thing? we won t know the answers to those things for some time. but using that speech and talking about immigration broadly in terms of the themes was very troubling to me as the son of immigrants. jonathan allen, you were at cpac with me as well this week, do you agree with his assessment of the different kind of atmosphere? absolutely. i agree with you about the atmosphere, just to go back to something he said very quickly, i think it is very important there was no distinction there. there was no distinction between legal immigration and illegal immigration, legal immigrants and the illegal immigrants. there are members of the president s family that were illegal to this country, including his wife. to not hear that broadly and to not think of it meant broadly, the president gave people to think of it like all immigrants. but in terms of the cpac changing, i talked to the weekly sta
it could be that he truly wasn t available. i have to tell you, i m actually pleased that two lawyers were talking with each other. because maybe there is some sense of policy and protocol and avoiding a double standard and all the repercussions of carving out the exception for just jared kushner when you have about 30 people at the white house who are similarly situated. so maybe it was a good thing. and now we ve got the white house counsel weighing in on this. it may actually help kelly, it may actually help kelly say i had counsel advise me to the contrary and had to do it this way. ken thomas, really quickly, the president said today he has confidence that john kelly will do the right thing. is there a sense that there s some sort of implicit threat in there, that the president has informed john kelly what he believes the right thing to be, and that s the course of action he expects? well, reading between the
talking about immigration broadly in terms of the themes was very troubling to me as the son of immigrants. jonathan allen, you were at cpac with me as well this week, do you agree with his assessment of the different kind of atmosphere? absolutely. i agree with you about the atmosphere, just to go back to something he said very quickly, i think it is very important there was no distinction there. there was no distinction between legal immigration and illegal immigration, legal immigrants and the illegal immigrants. there are members of the president s family that were illegal to this country, including his wife. to not hear that broadly and to not think of it meant broadly, the president gave people to think of it like all immigrants. but in terms of the cpac changing, i talked to the weekly standard s political editor this week, jim swift, and he said, cpac was always like a ringling bros circus. now it s more like surk day cir