the car and goes on every time he drives he s able to look at the gps data and see when the kid was driving, where he was driving, how fast he was driving. you would think they could put that in the guns and that would bring us to where they wanted to go, wouldn t it? absolutely. there s technology better than that which would be sat there dormant waiting for a signal for months. when you turned it on you could find out where it was. all of those things were not part of this plan. this plan was let them have the guns. see them at the scene of the crime. and then think you could connect the dots. clearly that was fallacy. and the arrests the limited amounts of arrests 19 out of 20 have been for the straw purchasers. they never rolled up the kind of people they said they were going to. because this program never could have lead to that sean: you interpret this to
information and has inappropriately interfered with this investigation. let me be clear, the justice department is not our partner in this effort. they are the subject of this investigation. and their continued interference will not be allowed to derail the committee s work. sean: committee report describes in great detail the type of interference encountered. doj leadership denied allegations that gun walking occurred in fast and furious by adopting an overly narrow definition of the term. they argue gun walking is limited to cases in which atf slide the guns directly. no surprise that a former clinton official is getting clintonesque about his alibis and his rationalizations for how this program got out of control. but it is certainly a case of parsing definitions and trying to wiggle out of what the
reporter: nothing while fast and furious guns showed pup in the hands of cartels. showed up in the hands of cartels. it confirms what many mexicans believe there s this conspiracy from the united states to sell guns to mexico. reporter: conspiracy or poor judgment in letting guns walk? fast and furious was unique. in the past a suspected buyer would be arrested in the parking lot or down the street. in fast and furious they were recruited, multiple sales approved, no arrests and no surveillance outside the store. reporter: that allowed a handful of young thugs to buy thousands of guns. a straw buy a kid who is 18 to 25, maybe up to 30-years-old. who needs a couple hundred extra bucks and knows somebody that knows somebody that has a way to make a couple extra bucks. they walk into a store, fill out a form. buy a couple of rifles and
sean: to date president obama and eric holder have been able to an individual much of the failures for the gun running operation. as new details emerge the spotlight of the scandal is a light on the highest levels of the government, including the justice department and the white house. the american people deserve prompt and complete answers to the questions surrounding this operation. letting guns walk is not acceptable. this is one of the most government s history. this is one of the saddest days in my six months in congress? agent newell what were you thinking? this is the moe, curly and larry show. we are looking for rich are they lying or are you
do you want us to stop selling? oh no. continue to sell them. reporter: more than one gun shore panicked as boxes of assault rifles through off their shelves into trucks bound for mexico. i wanted to make sure none of the firearms sold per our conversation could or would end up south of the border or in the hands of the bad guys wrote the scots dale gun club. i m looking for reassures republicans the guns are not going south or in the wrong hands in response the atf lied, assuring dealers their guns would not see mexico. how many hundreds or thousands of weapons did you allow to be purchased, knowing they were going to mexico? the purchase was being done by a criminal organization. you facilitated it. you allowed it, did you not? reporter: newell authorized the operation. he believed sending guns south would expose the network to the smugglers transporters and