the car and goes on every time he drives he's able to look at the gps data and see when the kid was driving, where he was driving, how fast he was driving. you would think they could put that in the guns and that would bring us to where they wanted to go, wouldn't it? >> absolutely. there's technology better than that which would be sat there dormant waiting for a signal for months. when you turned it on you could find out where it was. all of those things were not part of this plan. this plan was let them have the guns. see them at the scene of the crime. and then think you could connect the dots. clearly that was fallacy. and the arrests the limited amounts of arrests 19 out of 20 have been for the straw purchasers. they never rolled up the kind of people they said they were going to. because this program never could have lead to that >> sean: you interpret this to