defiled, right? i can t see it very well? i ll do this. i m going to do this. let s go. but this election is now over. congress has certified the results. i don t want to say the election is over. i just want to say that congress has certified the results, without saying the election is over, okay? a position he maintains to this day. the committee also presented video evidence to republican senator josh hawley s eagerness to egg on protesters that day with his now-famous clenched fist, which reportedly riled up the mob, later showing he has eagerness to get the hell out of dodge as fast as his feet could scamper and flee the very people he was once happy to incite. the video played to laughter in the gallery, but there was little comic relief after all we heard last night and the other installments in what we could learn when the hearings begin again in september. with us now, cnn senior law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe. also cnn contributor fo
today, does it seem to you that it is deeply more partisan than before? that there is something special and different this time? well, other than what was said before about the fact that you have two different parties who are involved in this process. the partisan johnson time was incredibly partisan. we had just come off a civil war. 700,000 people had died in a battle about a vision of america. so this was a very partisan time, and people saw this as a matter of life and death to figure out how you were going to bring all the african americans into citizenship. this is different because of social media, the development of the strong development of a party system that takes in people through social media. it s just a different technology of all of it is different. i think the passions and the partisanship were there in all the ones we ve seen. i m often struck by some of the heros of the water gate
meacham. annette, when you look at impeachment today, does it seem to you that it is deeply more partisan than before, that there is something special and different this sniem. well, other than what you ve said before about the fact that you have two different parties who are involved in this process. the partisan johnson time was incredibly partisan. we had just come off the civil war. 700,000 people had died in a battle about a vision of america so this was a very, very partisan time. people saw this as a matter of life and death to figure out how you were going to bring african-americans into citizenship. it was a very, very partisan time. this is different because of social media, the strong development of a party system that takes in people through social media. it s just a different the technology of it all is different. i think the passions and the partisanship were there in all of the months that we ve seen. i m often stlauk how some of the heroes of the watergate
offered a parallel with that but most of those criminal leads turned up empty so you ended up with some narrow things like perjury which most people including senate republicans at the time didn t think was an impeachable matter. i m not prepared to say this is better than everything. i am prepared to say it is an incredibly thorough report. you were invoked. so i would say, i wouldn t say this is more detailed and more thorough than the watergate evidence, because that let s remember, that took place over two years. right. this is in lightning speed. and as ari said, it s also without the benefit of probably 98% of the documents, because you have a flat-out refusal from the white house to provide anything. i think what s interesting is that in a short amount of time, although it s incredibly detailed, as was the watergate hearing, what you have here is actually something far more serious. both watergate and what we have here is an effort to obstruct
burned by the fact that the president has tried to distance himself from him even though they ve attended numerous events together, etc. there s a nexus between the criminal case and the congressional inquiry that recalls watergate. my wife was rereading the history of the era. the judge encouraged cooperation with the impeachment inquiry and even offered favorable terms if they did in fact cooperate with congress. as i remember what the judge did, he smelled a rat from the beginning of the watergate burglary. and he first of all he said senate, house, something smells here. you got to step in and do something. and that s triggered the senate/watergate hearing. the second thing he did was impose tough sentences on the burglars and one of them came forward and broke. so the outside federal judge who