meacham. annette, when you look at impeachment today, does it seem to you that it is deeply more partisan than before, that there is something special and different this sniem. >> well, other than what you've said before about the fact that you have two different parties who are involved in this process. the partisan -- johnson time was incredibly partisan. we had just come off the civil war. 700,000 people had died in a battle about a vision of america so this was a very, very partisan time. people saw this as a matter of life and death to figure out how you were going to bring african-americans into citizenship. it was a very, very partisan time. this is different because of social media, the strong development of a party system that takes in people through social media. it's just a different -- the technology of it all is different. i think the passions and the partisanship were there in all of the months that we've seen. >> i'm often stlauk how some of the heroes of the watergate