don t think moscow is not noticing that. don t think that putin is not noticing that. we are really in a position to help them with ground munitions and this is largely being fought on the ground. it can make a difference. to claire s point, michael, this is the latest estimate of how it s going and i think it s fair to say that ukraine exceeds the expectations that were held by the west 15 days ago. russia lost hundreds of vehicles. 15 to 20 fixed wing aircraft. estimated 20 to 25 helicopters. current u.s. assessment has as we reported at the top that it will take russia one to two weeks to encircle kyiv. been in that convoy that if it wasn t sinister is comedic.
and we re back. now to the debate over government spying. i spoke with the head of the senate intelligence committee, democrat from kat dianne feinstein as well as the chair of the house intelligence committee, both the intelligence chairs. republican from michigan mike rog persons it was their only interview together since obama s important speech on friday. senator feinstein is, chairman rogers welcome back. good to have you both. so the future of spying it seems to me is very much like the president s. do you view this as a big victory, chairman rogers. i thought the most important victory was the president standing up and saying the program did not have abus. this wasn t sinister. it was legal and proper. some of the suggestions how to move forward i have some concerns with, but i thought it was an important really an important role for the president to play. i wish he would have played it seven months ago but i was glad to hear it yesterday. so edward snowden whatever
i spoke with the head of the senate intelligence committee, democrat from kat dianne feinstein as well as the chair of the house intelligence committee, both the intelligence chairs. republican from michigan mike rog persons it was their only interview together since obama s important speech on friday. senator feinstein is, chairman rogers welcome back. good to have you both. so the future of spying it seems to me is very much like the president s. do you view this as a big victory, chairman rogers. i thought the most important victory was the president standing up and saying the program did not have abus. this wasn t sinister. it was legal and proper. some of the suggestions how to move forward i have some concerns with, but i thought it was an important really an important role for the president to play. i wish he would have played it seven months ago but i was glad to hear it yesterday. so edward snowden whatever you think of him leaks these documents, the information about thes
victory, chairman rogers? i thought the most important victory was the president standing up and saying the program did not have abuse. this wasn t sinister. it was legal and proper. some of the suggestions how to move forward i have some concerns with, but i thought it was an important really an important role for the president to play. i wish he would have played it seven months ago but i was glad to hear it yesterday. so edward snowden whatever you think of him leaks these documents, the information about these programs. and senator feinstein, there s a big hue and cry, but basically the president says these programs are here to stay. and critics of the speech as i ve been reading them seem to say very little will change. barton gellman says, obama placed restrictions on access to domestic can phone records collected by the national security agency, but the changes he announced will allow it to continue or expand the collection of personal data from billions of people arou
remember, we did that thing. we had that has meeting and all those rnussians. it s problematic, because we keep catching them in lies and they keep withholding information. so if you didn t do anything, you should want this to exonerate you and you should believe fully in the process that it will exonerate you. why bring this kind of pressure exert this kind of pressure on lawmakers, especially when the president is under so much scrutiny already? the report in the new york stooi times is that he said to burr, was, let s get this over with. something like that. and roy blunt said it wasn t sinister, it was, let s get this over. i think the president and i don t think it s so much that someone said earlier on cnn, i don t think that he doesn t understand how the game is played. i think he wants his presidency to move past this. and i tend to think that he thinks that there s not anything