had difficulty gathering evidence and what they have to do here today and continue to do in the weeks and months ahead its follow-through on all of the investigative leads. i m a big believer ready, aim, fire. if you don t act hastily. martha: what do you say to those that this investigation has been going on for a couple of years now and there s a report today, the washington post put out a story saying the democrats aren t frustrated with the ongoing effort to investigate president trump and they complain about a lack of urgency and a lack of results and then you ve got 53% in the cbs poll saying they want to move on from this issue. are you concerned about what it does politically? you ve asked a number of really important questions there, martha. when watergate first came to light it took two years for the american public to appreciate the gravity of watergate and very few people and i understand why haven t had the time to read the report. what we are today, the most imp
do something. you can t do it, which is why we don t make people do it in the court. martha: however the inverse is also true. if the president can t say i was completely exonerated for the same reason. i think when the president says that he is speaking in a political primate keep in mind before bob mueller had uttered a single syllable of his report, 60 house democrats had moved to impeach him. adam schiff had him in jail and then he had him imprisoned. martha: since you brought that up i just want to play this little montage because this when you hear the language that we heard today in there, i just want to remind people of the stakes in the bar, the way that it was placed as we went through this whole process. let s play that. he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time. by the time we get to 2020, donald trump may not even be president. in fact, he may not even be a free person. to believe the president
facebook as a primary new sourc source. martha: that s one of the reasons the doj is looking into it as well. before i let you go i do want to get your thoughts on today. i know you said you thought that it was sad to see robert mueller not a sharp, perhaps, on some of the facts. even before today, most americans had moved on from this issue. this issue, even before today, was as dead as 4:00 to them. what my democratic friends tried to do today was room a corpse, and they couldn t do it. they just couldn t do it. not a corpse is not only dead, it s buried. i do feel bad about bob mueller and i don t think they should have put him through this. bob mueller, in my judgment i know some of our viewers disagree, but he s an honorable man and he served this country well and hope the american people will remember him from his days when he was in his prime. he shouldn t have had to go through that. martha: it s notable, i
own behavior. sounds like he s feeling the heat certainly, if what he did was true. but that s the point. he isn t guilty at this point. innocent until proven guilty so the president is saying this is unfair to manafort, he s being treated unjustly. is this fair? well, as we ve said, you know, paul manafort is innocent until proven guilty, but man is he making the government s job easy for him to make this case and if you look back at this acc attack on bob mueller and his team, the genesis of this wasn t bob mueller, it was paul manafort and his actions and reaching out. witness tampering is something you just don t do. these witnesses are sacrosanct. sometimes defense attorneys will look and say, the government has a higher hand here when it comes to witness buzz that s the way it goes and it s not illegal for the team of manafort to be talking to witnesses but if they had done it through the lawyer, that would have been one thing. they re using encrypted communication to have