own behavior. >> sounds like he's feeling the heat certainly, if what he did was true. but that's the point. he isn't guilty at this point. innocent until proven guilty so the president is saying this is unfair to manafort, he's being treated unjustly. is this fair? >> well, as we've said, you know, paul manafort is innocent until proven guilty, but man is he making the government's job easy for him to make this case and if you look back at this acc -- attack on bob mueller and his team, the genesis of this wasn't bob mueller, it was paul manafort and his actions and reaching out. witness tampering is something you just don't do. these witnesses are sacrosanct. sometimes defense attorneys will look and say, the government has a higher hand here when it comes to witness buzz that's the way it goes and it's not illegal for the team of manafort to be talking to witnesses but if they had done it through the lawyer, that would have been one thing. they're using encrypted communication to have this discussion and as we found out,
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