that the application and request should be dismissed for what they are, a liable. designed to deny israel the right to defend itself according to the law from the unprecedented terrorist onslaught that it continues to face. and to free the 136 hostages hamas still holds. let s discuss now with david chef, or if former u.s. ambassador for war crime issues during the clinton administration. david, thank you so much for being with. us what did you make of that rebuttal today from israel? it was a very powerful one. they had three main points. number one, south africa is ignoring the fact that there is a war between israel and hamas. that means combat. that means israel has a right to self defense and to use military force in that context. and it s not just attacking
ukrainian capital, following the withdrawal of russian forces. most of them, fatally shot. an indication, according to the police, the ukrainians are being quote, simply executed. this week, rolling stone detailed the complex and almost impossible process necessary to prove that vladimir putin s regime should be, and can be charged with war crimes. joining me now, the former u.s. ambassador at large for war crime issues in the office of global criminal justice. ambassador, thank you so much for joining us. as rolling stone noted this week, cases involving war crimes, they take a long time to get to the courts. and even when they go to trial, these trials oftentimes, and in acquittals. give me a reality check here, how realistic is it that vladimir putin will actually be held accountable? or even be charged? well, i think it s extremely likely that he will be charged. the international criminal court has jurisdiction, overwork rhymes committed, in ukraine since 2014.
more than 900 civilian bodies have been discovered in the region surrounding the ukrainian capital, following the withdrawal of russian forces. most of them, fatally shot. an indication, according to the police, the ukrainians are being quote, simply executed. this week, rolling stone detailed the complex and almost impossible process necessary to prove that vladimir putin s regime should be, and can be charged with war crimes. joining me now, stephen rapp, the former u.s. ambassador at large for war crime issues in the office of global criminal justice. ambassador, thank you so much for joining us. as rolling stone noted this week, cases involving war crimes, they take a long time to get to the courts. and even when they go to trial, these trials oftentimes, end in acquittals. give me a reality check here, how realistic is it that vladimir putin will actually be held accountable? or even be charged? well, i think it s extremely likely that he will be charged. the international crimi
this reinforces our determination and the determination of countries around the world, to make sure one way or another, one day or another there is accountability for those who committed these acts. for those who ordered them. let s discuss this with ambassador steven rapp, he is the former u.s. ambassador at large for war crime issues. he s now a distinguished fellow for the prevention of genocide at the u.s. holocaust museum. ambassador, you just heard the secretary of state there. how will russia be held accountable? well, it will be held accountable in a court of law. the case is before the icc, jurisdiction has been given by ukraine, 41 countries to move the case then before the prosecutor. these are war crimes, there s no question about it. that willing people on bicycles, old ladies in their back yards. the horrendous crimes that people have with hands behind