be used. it requires there to be knowledge of an intent to use force and prove that with respect to the oath keepers and the proud boys. if there was a link that the president somehow or his conspirators were aware of and even actively supported the use of violence, that would be seditious conspiracy. that s not in the target letter or was in our criminal referral. again, we hadn t established that link. but i m sure jack smith is looking for it, and something i would be looking for, did he find such a link, and is there a seditious conspiracy charge? i jump in and would ask you back, given all the investigation your committee did, do you feel like you can say that you got close to that, that you felt you were getting there, or in all fairness, as far as the evidence, you didn t really get there with regard to white house officials. we didn t really get there, ari. again, there were phone records that suggest, you know, mark meadows has a phone conversation. donald trump talks to s
bannon on january 6th. we don t know what those conversations were about. we know that bannon is ramping up the intensity on the ground and is in touch with folks out there in the crowd. so is he a sort of conveyer of information? i don t want to overstate our findings, right? we looked hard but could not establish that. but, again, jack smith may have tools that we don t have, and may be able to penetrate those conversations and establish those connection it is they exist. final thought, did you want to weigh in there? on the conspiracy, there would have to be an agreement. there s evidence that trump was loving it, like as the flames were burning, he was jujubilant. but he said something that s very important, mark meadows, the identity of the judge. as tim said, there are d.c. judges who have really made
you get a little more hands on. conspiracy, you can be way over there, but you are conspireing to do it. and although it s not automatic proof, if you are the main beneficiary of it, here, well, there s only one person who remains president if you hijack the process and we become a dictatorship and that s donald trump. so he s got a lot there. the other point i would make, and msnbc and nbc news, we have not confirmed who the co-conspirators are, we don t know. but when you talk about that docket, you re talking about the people who are the instruments of some of the plots we know about, whether charged or not. that s these lawyers like eastman and powell, potentially giuliani. that s one bucket.
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