and what they have citizens alive or eligible to vote. it is a nationwide problem. shannon: here is what they say, examination after examination of voter fraud claims revealed that fraud is very rare, voter impersonation nearly nonexistent, they turn to be baseless, numerous studies have shown that. that is a funded organization who set up to deny voter fraud all over the country. they never say it exists. their job is to put up a smoke screen about the truth. the reality is that the voter fraud is real, you showed instances just now of people who are noncitizens voting in the 2008 presidential election, 2012, and then three days before president trump was sworn in, they write a letter saying, please remove me from the rolls, they should ve been afraid what he was going to do. they ve been doing it all over the country. shannon: why is there such a denial of it? we have seen books and studies and things written that the numbers are not true. the president has a particular numbe
and what they have citizens alive or eligible to vote. it is a nationwide problem. shannon: here is what they say, examination after examination of voter fraud claims revealed that fraud is very rare, voter impersonation nearly nonexistent, they turn to be baseless, numerous studies have shown that. that is a funded organization who set up to deny voter fraud all over the country. they never say it exists. their job is to put up a smoke screen about the truth. the reality is that the voter fraud is real, you showed instances just now of people who are noncitizens voting in the 2008 presidential election, 2012, and then three days before president trump was sworn in, they write a letter saying, please remove me from the rolls, they should ve been afraid what he was going to do. they ve been doing it all over the country. shannon: why is there such a denial of it? we have seen books and studies and things written that the numbers are not true. the president has a particular numbe
as to whether or not vote fraud occurs and how prevalent it is. we in the state of missouri regularly see every type of vote fraud you can imagine from documented cases of voter impersonation to people trying to slip multiple ballots in the box, multiple times, voting where they re not registered. we have a state ledge ster elected, it was proven, two members of his family pled guilty in a court of law to putting him over the top won by one vote and he serves in the legislature. vote fraud occurs. you want the integrity of the system to be as good as possible. this is usually controlled by the states. i think we all do. there s very little that the federal government could do and as you know, when you ve gone around the state making the case for your efforts, you really only have one case that you can cite and that doesn t mean you shouldn t try to do better, but it does mean you shouldn t blow the problem out of proportion. the president said there were 3 million illegal votes.
that. why waste time and money with a commission to look at fraud when you don t have a major fraud issue? well, first of all, we have far more than just one instance. i d be happy you had one case. when you get pushed you fall back on one case. no, sir. we haven t. i mean we ve had multiple cases just in the six months that i ve been the secretary of state here. and i would be happy to go through those with you if you would like to come to missouri we can show you instances we ve had. it is unfortunately an occurrence. i mean i m talk about with voter impersonation. what we re worried about is somebody saying they re able to vote and then voting. you have one case of that true or false? i think we should be worried about any illegal votes. we should. in terms of 3 million a good election is where they win and opponent loses that s not true. a good election is where the voters of the state or the voters of the nation makes the decision. right. that s all i want.
there is no evidence to back it up. expert after expert, especially across bipartisan lines, has said that there is no proof for it, and in the commonwealth of kentucky we have no evidence of voter impersonation that would back up the president s claim. we continue to be vigilant and assure voters of the integrity of our process. the president s tweets, 140 characters at a time, though, it s breaking down our democracy and there is a point you say no. this is not to justify all the president has put forth, but this is not about party, this is about the personal privacy of voters. when you re talking about releasing to the federal government the last four digits of their social security number, their date of birth, where they live, if they ve been serving in the military, if they ve had felony convictions? i don t know about you, but the same way the nra doesn t want a federal gun registry, americans don t want a federal voter