that. why waste time and money with a commission to look at fraud when you don't have a major fraud issue? >> well, first of all, we have far more than just one instance. i'd be happy -- >> you had one case. when you get pushed you fall back on one case. >> no, sir. we haven't. i mean we've had multiple cases just in the six months that i've been the secretary of state here. and i would be happy to go through those with you if you would like to come to missouri we can show you instances we've had. it is unfortunately an occurrence. i mean -- >> i'm talk about with voter impersonation. what we're worried about is somebody saying they're able to vote and then voting. you have one case of that true or false? >> i think we should be worried about any illegal votes. >> we should. in terms of 3 million -- >> a good election is where they win and opponent loses that's not true. a good election is where the voters of the state or the voters of the nation makes the decision. >> right. >> that's all i want.