information by being on the board of directors of the company, not got inside information as a u are of his role in congress. not that what he did, if it s true, is not even remotely okay. but like you said, it doesn t have to do directly with his job in washington. katie: can i submit one thing as evidence, as bias, you look at the new york times article they did about senator bob menendez, they did not mention in a helping think article they see what the what that he was a democrat once. then they updated it online and only mentioned it in the fourth paragraph of the article. i ll submit that as evidence of bias in the way these things are kord. tom: very powerful evidence. lisa: i thought you d like it. katie: i think it s important that this cover is put out to the can you betry, a republican accused of serious crimes. i wish the media would hold the other side to the same standard, it would be better for everybody.
katie: i think that represents how difficult it is in this day and age to engage the debate. you go to the college campus, conservatives are spending thousands of dollars on security, they re being threatened by leftists to bring a different perspective into the conversation, ben shapiro included. he brought the money in to trynd say, you won t debate me based on the merits, what if i give incentive to have a conversation. harris: we have campaign laws. lisa: he was innocently looking for a hook to draw her into the conversation. but he has shut down consistently on college campuses, or attempts, why do you think that is? he is a brilliant guy and his words have an impact and people, college students listen and he offers a counter position that a lot of these college students aren t getting on the college campuses. tom: if she were quicker she would have accepted the challenge and satisfy let s give to it charity. harris: but then she has to do it. she s chicken.