been multiple families who are here and there visa ends and they have to go back to ireland. i know i heard you saying yesterday that they don t drown people up and send it back to ireland. they do, actually. harris: at my child s school, we just went to their going away party on saturday. melissa: they were here for economic reasons, they wanted to stay. they went back and jessica: it s not at all at the same level whatsoever. harris: but there are examples. jessica: of course there are examples. my point was that when you look at their purported i.c.e. raids and it looks like they haven t actually been carrying through with them thus far they were targeting people who had crossed the southern border illegally. they were not going after people who were visa over state playlists from eastern europe or western europe, which is the majority of these. if the policy targeting brown people. harris: you have evidence they were not specific or going after jessica: they t
bite. in some of these cities that we read over the weekend some of these major american cities have been no reports of ice movement inside the city. you wonder if the message is being sent down to mexico and central america. we ll see what happens. they re supposed to go on over the course of a couple of weeks. the kickoff yesterday. i think the fact that information got leaked ahead of time to the new york times about the deportations would look like has scared off a lot of people influencing them. dhs acting secretary has said he is concerned that families will be separated but we have seen guatemala has pushed back on the safe country policy. we ll see what the other central american nations who are supposed to participate development ice enforcement argument they re making. since 2007 we have had half a million more visa overstays than illegal crossings. ice is not going into south boston and rounding up irish
it s not what s swamping i.c.e. i agree, border patrol. let me finish. i.c.e. is taken out of the business of pursuing visa overstays. i don t mean completely but because of what they re contending with backing up cpc on the border, they re the second stage of the pipeline in detention. and they wanted to not have detention. it was catch and return. now they re retaining and can t move them on to i.c.e. because i.c.e. facilities are overbooked. those folks are swamped with the same order problem and cannot in the same numbers pursue visa overstays. you are not numbers abowrong ab numbers. i will say for visa overstays, all of those people had at least one vetting, whatever it may have been, to get an initial
people were not adult males, single adult males. they were families and unaccompanied children. that is a phenomenally complicating factor. ut but the numbers are still dwarfed by the member on visa oversays. we don t get a number on visa overstays. you get zero, nobody tells you they are over staying their visa. you would move them out. that s right. worrying about immigration policy in general and if we had more time we would talk immigration policy engineers would be bringing. but if one were worried about that, why the attention on the border? it feels weird. it feels like we re really preon pied with brown people coming in on the southern border. if you said what s the hierarchy you need to solve it would be your visa overstay program. that is still not what s swamping the border pa tlom.
want people coming to the country in the first place. it is a leverage of fear. it is important to remember too. two things. the vast majority of undocumented immigrants live in big cities like new york and los angeles. most of the people now being added to that population are not people from mexico. they are mostly asian at this point and visa overstays. it is not the case that when he talks about. it is a more complex picture. speaking to a reporter who said, my duty is not to look at the will of the people, that is