been multiple families who are here and there visa ends and they have to go back to ireland. i know i heard you saying yesterday that they don't drown people up and send it back to ireland. they do, actually. >> harris: at my child's school, we just went to their going away party on saturday. >> melissa: they were here for economic reasons, they wanted to stay. they went back and -- >> jessica: it's not at all at the same level whatsoever. >> harris: but there are examples. >> jessica: of course there are examples. my point was that when you look at their purported i.c.e. raids -- and it looks like they haven't actually been carrying through with them thus far -- they were targeting people who had crossed the southern border illegally. they were not going after people who were visa over state playlists from eastern europe or western europe, which is the majority of these. if the policy targeting brown people. >> harris: you have evidence they were not specific or going after -- >> jessica: they talked about people who had crossed the border illegally and had missed a court date. >> harris: i mean, visa