after they leave office. and so in terms of a violation of some policy and the fairness of calling it a leak to release these memos to the new york times or tell someone to read them, you probably could say that comey violated fbi policy . in terms of any legal stricture, i m much more doubtful. thank you very much. appreciate the time. president trump vows his personal lawyer, michael cohen will not flip as the investigation into michael cohen s business dealings continues. in a tweet this morning, president trump accused the new york times and one of its reporters of going out of the way to destroy cohen and his relationship, adding, sorry, i don t see michael doing that despite the horrible witch hunt and dishonest media. michael cohen under criminal investigation under suspicion of wire fraud, bank fraud and election law violations. joining me now is legal analyst danny
daughter. as you can see the procession make its way through. thousands have shown up. quiet moment right now. you can feel the hush coming over the crowd as this procession begins to pass through. many of these are kcollege students who were not even alive during the bush 41 administration, but they know the bushes well. as one put it to me. they say they re like family to people here in college station. part of the reason is because of the fact that the library is located here, as you can see, the procession coming through here. part of the reason is that there just was a strong presence. one girl said when she was 5 years old she remembers barbara bush cunning to her kindergarten class and reading to the class. it s a memory that has stuck with her and in the years she followed she learned more about barbara bush. a lot of people are wearing the texas anm colors.
so all these things sort of overlap, making mueller potentially a witness, and there s some reason to think that maybe some of his communications with senior officials on the campaign on issues like national security might already be in mueller s possession. how much people are talking about what a signifier this is? you ve got michael cohen who s in some trouble with the southern district at this point. are people saying there might be a connection here between the hiring of rudy giuliani in that capacity? that s definitely one of the themes that you hear, although it s been quite a while since rudy giuliani held that position. so how familiar he may be with the way they do things right now versus 20 years ago is a fair question. i think, however, giuliani s main role here is supposed to be what he s been talking about the last couple days, which is to get into some kind of dialogue with robert mueller, the special counsel, and move towards an interview of the president. giuliani
this is the highest level of the game, the highest level of intellectualism. to see somebody celebrated, a black person celebrated for their genius and their brilliance is that s always thrilling. last question for you, just about politics and the way he approaches them. you talk about his background. he has this close friendship so much as you can have with the sitting president of the united states. with barack obama. what do you learn about both of them in parallel? both of them seep to have come from backgrounds where it s like who knows if this person will be able to survive or make it to become something. and to see them both be able to move through difficult like situations to become such successful and productive servants for people is extraordinary.
can hope for the prosecutor advising the court that the witness has cooperated for a lesser sentence. so the idea that cooperated witnesses are walking off scot-free is usually not the case in federal court. but as you can imagine, u.s. attorneys also have to vet these stories too because there is a huge challenge in using a cooperating witness for prosecutors. even if they make michael cohen a cooperating witness, this will be somebody ultimately, if he is a cooperating witness, that likely has pleaded guilty, has deceived the government in some way. at least that s what they ll allege, and that s what the arrangement will be. and then a defense attorney will skewer a cooperating witness who has participated in deception and who has participated in crimes him or herself. i m not saying that s michael cohen now. but ultimately if that s the federal government s objective to turn michael cohen, then you take the good and you take the bad. those are the facts of life, all right? if he ha