do it for us tonight. thanks very much for being with us. forgive me for having a weird husky voice, which comes from but i just want to thank you for that hour, that 40 minutes with e. jean and this amazing legal team. because roberta kaplan, sean crowley, when you get into reading the transcript of this case, as you know, they re even better than you think. it s like, this is going well, oh no, it s going much, much better, because they re so sharp in every twist and turn in those transcripts all the way through. and it s just an amazing legal team. so i m glad they re all here as a team, because they are three remarkable people there who made this happen. and we can see from the outside, like you said, looking at transcripts, seeing how unflappable and professional and disciplined and prepared they were. but to see e. jean grab both of their hands and call them indestructible, knowing what they ve been through together and the prep they went through with her and knowin
husky voice, which comes from being in the second week of the stupid cold. i promise next week i will be better. now it s time for the last word with lawrence o donnell. good evening, lawrence. good evening, lawrence. we have andrew weissmann and faith gay joining us to go over the legal aspects of this case. and lisa birnbach is going to join us, who as you know, is the person who e. jean carroll called on the day donald trump did that to her here in manhattan. and we are going to get that dimension of the story told here. but i just want to thank you for that hour, that 40 minutes with e. jean and this amazing legal team. because roberta kaplan, sean crowley, when you get into reading the transcript of this case, as you know, they re even better than you think. it s like, this is going well, oh no, it s going much, much better, because they re so sharp in every twist and turn in those transcripts all the way through. and it s just an amazing legal team. so i m glad they r
verdict came along and we made some emergency arrangements. here in boston. to get into this coverage tonight. we have lisa birnbach joining us, as the first guest tonight, as you know, she is e. jean carroll s best friend and the most supportive witness that e. jean carroll had in the trial. she s the very first person who heard e. jean carroll s story. that very day. minutes after it happened. when she had that encounter with donald trump. and you know, lisa burn box testimony about this, i think should so much light into the ways in which victims of sexual assault often have a hard time grappling with what they just went through. and lisa birnbach did, i think the whole country a service. by helping illustrate the confusion and the denial that a lot of sexual victims feel in those first moments after an assault. it s gonna be really important guest to hear from tonight, lawrence, it s great to have her. yeah, alex, last night, on this program, we hand harvard law profe
the whole country a service. by helping illustrate the confusion and the denial that a lot of sexual victims feel in those first moments after an assault. she s going to be a really important guest to hear from tonight, lawrence, it s great to have her. yeah, alex, last night, on this program, we hand harvard law professor lawrence tribe. and i alerted the audience to the fact that is very likely that president biden would be paying attention to what professor tribe said about the debt ceiling and the 14th amendment on this program last night. and sure enough today, when president biden was asked about it he said, i have been considering the 14th amendment, and a man i have enormous respect for, larry tribe, who advised me for a long time, thinks that would be legitimate. i m not saying he was watching the show. i think you could say that. i think you can say that. i think that means you are allowed to say that. i don t know. i don t know. i think you deserve it.
plates, but i just remember her not knowing what to think. and then, as i said to the lawyers in court, when she described his penetrating her, i said, e. jean carroll, you ve been raped. i stepped outside the kitchen, i didn t want my kids to hear it. i m pretty sure my three year old didn t know what that meant, nor my six-year-old, but still, it was just so shocking. he raped you, you should go to the police. and that was horrible, she was ashamed. and the word rape just had a very bad feeling for her. i mean, who wouldn t, it was worse than maybe somebody of my generation, she s enough older that being a victim of rape, and she s not a victim type,