might have arrived at a different decision. he calls up dan quail as you say, former vice president, fellow indiana republican and says aren t there any ways, what about a delay? he s thinking through options. quail is very firm and ultimately, pence comes down in agreement with him and sticks firm in this meeting with trump in the oval office on january 5th even as the president is saying can t you do this? wouldn t it be cool to have the power to do this? what is remarkable about this conversation with scquail revead in the book, it shows the former vice president thinking through and seeking outweighs to get to trumps demands. not necessarily they this has been spun all the way or understood. it adds a lot to it. thank you very much. appreciate your sharing that with me. i want to go to counsel on foreign relations senior fellow
tonight. so before we get to our political team for analysis, i want to check in with our chief political can t dana bash who is in houston at the third debate. so dan narcotics let s talk strategy. what is the vice president thinking going into this, or his team? anderson, i spoke to a senior biden adviser who s involved in debate prep before coming on with you tonight. he said a couple of things. first, what we ve been hearing from the biden camp today is the notion he is going to push there is a difference between plans and getting things done. you can t have change if you can t actually implement. when you think plan, you think elizabeth warren. so when we ve been hearing that, we ve been thinking ah-ha, this is going to be the way he is going to differentiate himself from elizabeth warren, the very first time they re on the stage together. this adviser insisted it s note just elizabeth warren. there are plenty of people on that stage who have plans that he considers pie-in-the-s
on the gop side. no way that anybody would have seen several nonpoliticians get in and be doing so well and kind of this force that donald trump has become in this whole conversation. i look at it as a mood that s happening in the country that there is this mood that voters feel disenfranchised and are angry at what s going on in washington. they are upset that economic recovery hasn t really included the middle class at all, that people are still worried about their jobs. at the end of the day voters will coalesce around someone that they trust will be able to manage all of this and be a leader and be a clear voice and have compassion for everyone. it s early. on the other side of it to get some would say it s late for the vice president thinking about getting in. we should know within days what his decision is. what do you make of that potential entry? he would have a huge impact were he to decide to get in and