yeah . i was in l.a.. it was a day. this is the second version of the defeat the mandates march or rally. the first was in d.c. in november. that rally was very, i would say, far-right. it did, it was a little more political. like, almost like a trump rally. this one today was markedly different. here is why. it was a collection of . basically what it looked like was 2019, again. when california was arguing about childhood vaccine mandates. this was very much an anti vaccine rally, not just covid. they had jimmy mccarthy appear, via video. bob series appear. some of the original o g anti-vax cisa they literally said, we ve been fighting this fight for
so, it was about average for an anti vaccine rally. i think what is important to think about is that there are two sections in grand park. there is the first section, right by the stage. that probably had . maybe on a good day, 1000 people were there. but then, they had gotten this whole overflow. they had a whole other screen, have people there. no one was there. there weren t enough people for that. and terms of like what that means for public health, i would say that is a small win. just because people weren t there doesn t mean that message didn t resonate. children s health defense, robert f. kennedy s were streaming it. a lot of people were watching on the internet. it s hard to say how many people might have been affected by some of the things they heard today. michael, i m surprised that, you know, fury over vaccine and mandates have lasted this long. it seems like these people have gotten more radical as this
listen. it would be a lot sharper the next time when it comes to counting the vote. there s a famous statement, sometimes the vote counter is more important than the candidate. and we can t let that ever, ever happen again. they have to get tougher and smarter. he says for everything he s posted and brought to the attention of the public, he s seen 99 things worse. criminal defense attorney and former state prosecutor ron phillip talks to me. i ve always wanted to talk to you. it s great to see you. thanks for making time for us. we appreciate it. glad to do it. thank you for having me on. i want to get your reaction to the scenario i was just talking about in the previous segment about what would have happened if trump had gotten away with his attempted coup on january 6th. at the heart of it is the problem we have with extremism and disinformation. it s the jet fuel of trumpism. and it s something you try to highlight every day. yeah, i think yesterday the big vaccine rally
we appreciate it. glad to do it. thank you for having me on. ron, i want to get your reaction to the scenario that i was just talking about in the previous segment, about what would have happened had trump gotten away with his attempted coup on january 6th. at the heart of it is this problem we have with extremism and disinformation. it s the jet fuel of trumpism, and it s something that you try to highlight every day. yeah. i think yesterday the big vaccine rally in d.c. was, you know, a really perfect example of the problem that we face. there was a pretty significant turnout of people. they had doctors speak. it was just one lie after another. but i think that that rally also illustrated a really good way of combating misinformation in the way that it was presented. and you do that how? take us behind the scenes. how do you and i guess you
no. genocide with ari without. one navarro told another journalist that trump was on board. this ted cruz were among the hundred lawmakers ready to implement the plan. neither crews nor navarro nor trump have really faced any kind of legal repercussions for the plans on january six. of course, hundreds of people that stormed the capitol have. dr. simone gould, seen with a blow horn inside the capital january 6th. she s the which sprang up last year on chronic lockdowns, pushing deep punked and spewing rhetoric. the doctor was already in d.c. over an anti vaccine rally. joined the crowd at the capitol the next day. we know she was there because, well, she told the washington post just days later, confirming that gold confirmed that she went inside the capitol, saying that she followed a credit assumed it