listen. >> it would be a lot sharper the next time when it comes to counting the vote. there's a famous statement, sometimes the vote counter is more important than the candidate. and we can't let that ever, ever happen again. they have to get tougher and smarter. >> he says for everything he's posted and brought to the attention of the public, he's seen 99 things worse. criminal defense attorney and former state prosecutor ron phillip talks to me. i've always wanted to talk to you. it's great to see you. thanks for making time for us. we appreciate it. >> glad to do it. thank you for having me on. >> i want to get your reaction to the scenario i was just talking about in the previous segment about what would have happened if trump had gotten away with his attempted coup on january 6th. at the heart of it is the problem we have with extremism and disinformation. it's the jet fuel of trumpism. and it's something you try to highlight every day. >> yeah, i think yesterday the big vaccine rally in d.c. was,