back. also joining us, dan goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, former league counsel for the democrats first impeachment trial, not to be mixed up with the second impeachment trial and new york times editorial board member mara gay is here, all three msnbc contributors. i got through the draper piece, and i remember flynn being talked about as a vp and i actually remember i was interviewing jeb bush and people were covering threads of flynn. i think he was on morning joe one morning when you and i were both there, john heilemann, sort of cleaning up his positions on issues like abortion and whatnot. and then i saw mike pence give a speech today and i want to play what he said, and i wondered if it s beyond rational to wonder if pence and flynn could face off should trump sit it out. here s pence saying donald trump is wrong. and i heard this week that president trump said i had the right to overturn the election.
the right thing tomorrow? how do we convince congress? erin, as you know, deer was a top-communications adviser to trump. a frequent presence in the west wing. and investigators want to know more about trump s public response to the attack, including that video message that he recorded hours after violence was first reported at the capitol. deer is just the latest in a wide net of individuals in trump orbit subpoenaed by the committee. erin. thank you very much, paula, with all that new information. let s go to elie honig, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and david becker, who was a prosecutor in the voting section of the justice department s civil rights division. so, ellie, let me start with the plot that paula was laying out. 14 people tied to that subpoena. they are obviously not going to get all 14 to cooperate and it is a long process but do you think they will get a few? and is a few or a handful enough? yeah, erin, there is so much here a
lost. the judge said that the lawsuits contained quote, numerous examples of the presidents communications being understood by supporters this direct messages to them and, in the case of the january 6th rally, as a call to action. the court well understands the gravity of its decision, but the alleged facts of this case are without precedent. joining us now, daniel goldman who served as the house impeachment inquiry majority counsel for the first impeachment trial of donald trump. he s a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and an msnbc legal contributor. daniel, i d like to begin with these massive civil suits filed against donald trump for the attack on the capitol, and what the civil liabilities could be in those cases. yeah, there s a lot of liability for donald trump in
promised to do that to serve on the nation s highest court per drum announce any mccarthy former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and he could have you with us today. i just am to start by playing a little bit of people misted of the moment that she was presented as the nominee by president biden, let s watch. i am truly humbled by the extraordinary honor of this nomination. and i am especially grateful for the care that you have taken and discharging your constitutional duty in service of our democracy with all that is going on in the world today. martha: so andy, tells about judge jackson. what we should know about her history in terms of the way she approaches the law and the constitution. she is a progressive, martha by think as you saw in her remarks yesterday she has got a very winning personality pride
of donald trump. he s a former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york with msnbc legal contributor. daniel, i d like to begin with these massive civil suits filed against donald trump for the attack on the capitol, and with the civil liabilities could be in those cases. yeah, there s a lot of liability for donald trump and in those cases as well. a potential civil enforcement action by new york attorney general letitia james, and an additional order from a judge last week, ruled that donald trump had to sit for a deposition in that investigation. so on the civil front, are you agree with david cay johnston, that the walls are really closing in. when you combine those two judicial orders with the mazars accounting firm, essentially withdrawing from its representation of donald trump, his finances and the finances