reporter: not an appealable issue because the judge will make there when the time comes and donald trump has to put up or shut up, the judge will inquire of him in d.c. we call it the boyd inquiry. as a as to whether he wants to testify or not but my guess is, he keep saying he will testify because once judge merchan rules on the sandoval evidence, he will say it is an unfair ruling and they will let the prosecutors cross- examine that i am unable to testify because the whole process is unfair. okay. there is a hearing on tuesday about the gag order in this case. just a few hours, donald trump will be back on the campaign trail. he will speak in north carolina. what could he say that lands him in hot water now that a jury has been chosen? reporter: great question. if he starts to rail against the jurors or start to call out
what did he conclude from that meeting was going to happen? you ve got a lot of january 6th defendants saying trump is who brought me here, made me do this violence. absolutely. i would add to that list that they ve gone to court and lost everything. so the challenges, a reason those dates are so critical is that they actually had their opportunity to be heard and they lost all of those cases and pat cipollone to the january 6th committee said something that i thought was right on point. he said there s a certain place in time where it s put up or shut up. it s like you have evidence, this is the time to tell us. and to this day, there is no evidence. i mean, we just have to look at the recommendation of the d.c. bar today that rudy giuliani should be disbarred because he had no evidence to support the claim that he made in federal court that the election should be overturned and to me, it s
pudding. laura: she is right, the proof is in the pudding, and tonight to the angle has put up or shut up, stop talking about reparations and implement them, start writing checks, big checks and a lot of them. and while we are at it, while they san francisco? why would this not be a path that is correct and right for all of california? governor newsom, presidential candidate, how low! we know why, because gavin newsom wants to run for president and knows the reparations issue is a political loser, that s why. the prospect of reparations, the thought of reparations, it is as far as most democrats and elective office will ever go. that s because the idea of reparations, the discussion of reparations tells african americans that democrats care even at a time when their economic policies are making minorities poor and not richer.
documents from the archives, he s lost all those. this one looks set up to also be a loser, but i just want to caution, we just don t know and we haven t seen we haven t seen what will probably be several days of arguments unfolding on paper, at least. david, do you think this legal strategy by the former president is a delay tactic basically? yeah. i mean, anderson, you know, the president s famous for three ds. deny, delay and distract, right? this is delay. it s a the next step to the 11th circuit ruled. there s only one place to go. as joan points out, this is a very, very narrow, legal technical question in which his lawyers can make a straight-faced argument in front of the court without getting sanctioned and have a leg to stand on. but at the end of the day, as joan points out, the supreme court is probably not going to rule in his favor. you know, it s put up or shut
conspiracy theories. this whole thing was a deep state fake. which would have been politically, optically, legally not great for trump. which is why trump s leel team brought the special master order back to the judge in charge of the case, eileen cannon. tonight that judge that, trump appointed judge said, actually, trump s team does not need to comply with his order to essentially put up or shut up. meaning, trump and conservative media can continue to make the case that this entire mar-a-lago episode is some sort of deep state fake. while she was at it, she extended the deadline for the special masters review from the end of november to the week before christmas. deny, deny, deny, delay, delay, delay. so what does this mean for accountability? joining us is the executive editor of thenewyorker.com. for a moment after the 11th