anything, they can move anything around according to their wishes. they can completely disrespect us in ways that we really haven't seen before within the american experience. and yet they believe that they can get away with all of that because they know that the biden administration is not going to make them actually deal with any real consequences for their behavior. and i think that particularly with their most recent hack, the fact that this hack was taking place at the same time that the biden administration was congratulating itself, patting each other on the back for, you know, achieving some kind of diplomatic break through, some kind of thaw in relations shows you how ridiculous it is. >> they're disrespecting us pulling things out of our back pocket as they're shaking our hands and unfortunately until this administration is out of washington i think that is going to just be the regular just accepted way that we deal with the biggest adversary that we have around the world. >> laura: yeah. ari, john kirby, though, has been out there saying, look,

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