asspecifically fbi specifically as a means to promote anti-law enforcement strategies that gins up his base and enablers? one of the things democrats actually need to pay attention to. it may gin up his base but it smacks of desperation on the part of donald trump, because, you know, not only was this a, a half-baked fraudulent smear on the fbi and the rule of law, but it was wrong and also profoundly stupid. on their part. because, you know what it becomes is exhibit d., e. or f., take your choice, in the case for obstruction of justice against donald trump. and you know, again, i blame not only trump but john kelly for being where they are at this point. okay. but to the point there, kirsten about the fact bob mueller is paying attention to everything. the term sweet revenge used by
erin, chuck schumer. heard him calling on the president to release the democratic memo. will that happen, do you think? well, i don t know alex, but i don t know if they need it. might be better for democrats if president trump says, no, we re not going to release the memo. then obviously, president trump looks like he s getting in the way of the investigation again. then democrats can cry, culture of corruption. ultimately what you ll see happening. washington and new york over the past week have melted down over the rerelease of this memo. the rest of the country just hears about memos going back and forth and hasn t put a thumb on the scale much other than to make republicans look bad. if president trump keeps democrats from releasing the memo, the democrats can use it against him rn. and susan said that earlier. the initial pushback on the gop memo released was because this might compromise national security.
on a regular basis, we need to present an alternative leadership. so i think that s very, very important. let donald trump do and say everything that he wants to do and say, but we still have, we have a voice, and we need to make that voice heard. you know, the answer is not to be more like donald trump. absolutely. the answer is, a solution. an alternative. a narrative that moves the country forward in a leadership capacity. when you re following donald trump, you re not leading. the americans are tired of lack of leadership. i absolutely agree with that. i don t think it s not incumbent upon democrats to follow donald trump but to present an alternate narrative for leadership. my real concern here, though, is that if we ve seen donald trump declassify this information and put the knewess memo out there, my concern is that that will actually become a strategy for 2018. are we looking at donald trump using law enforcement community and the phish fib specifically
knew at the time. getting back to the congressman s details. one point accuses republicans of being part of an organized effort to obstruct mueller s probe. do you agree? and that would be based on his letter and the republican memo? i think donald trump s response to the memo is very telling. right? he came out the next day, and it was like he had read a different memo. he said, you know, this totally vindicates me, shows the whole russia investigation, you know, is a sham. in fact, i think any reasonable person reading the memo, it doesn t say that. there s no connection, really, between i m going to say, every person on my air. republican and democrat. reasonable people on the air and all agreed with you. yeah. so it s like it s like trump and certain of his allies, for sure, you know, have this theory. the theory is, warrant was tainted. tainted warrant means russia investigation tainted and should
john brennan is really talking this up to foolishness and irresponsibility? well, we will see where it goes. we re going it find out a lot more from robert mueller ultimately about that. donald trump is who he is, and no state of the union address can change that, as we ve seen. the release of the nunes memo was just a colossal mistake. you know, and this is not just on donald trump. it s also on john kelly. john kelly should have thrown his body from r in front of releasing that memo. you know, he s supposed to be as chief of staff, the honest broker of information. but what we ve seen time and time again from trump and now from especially from kelly now, is that he is unable when it comes to speaking hard truths to donald trump, john kelly is, to borrow a favorite phrase of his, just another empty barrel. and if if john brennan, the way he sort of talked this