Hello and welcome to cross out were all things to consider im people about president Vladimir Putin in his own words tells us how he understands history and the Current International system also why everybody apparently hates john bolton as he laughs all the way to the bank. To discuss this and more im joined by my guest George Samuel liam would have as he is author of bombs for peace natos humanitarian war on your was lobbying and in london we crossed to alexander me curacy is a writer on Legal Affairs as well as editor in chief duran are joining cross up rules in effect that means in germany combine rounds were going to how its 1st in london for those of us that are very interested in whats going on in the International System obviously read the article the Vladimir Putin has abolished in the National Interest it was titled let me approach and the real reasons of the 75th anniversary of world war 2 why did you write it and what is its importance now that the 1st reason he wrote it is
Unsustainable so. Thats really extremely well said you know george the the article is its a very long extremely detailed and my 1st reaction is this is a historical document all by itself it was only published a few days ago the parallels of the the 1930 s. And what we have right now in the International Order is is following a part fragmenting and this is one of the it is the primary reason other than nazi aggression started the. War in europe and i think the parallels are really quite have me have the United States using sanctions as a political weapon we have we have constant pressure being brought against iran against and israel but has no basis in International Law and this and this is a very appropriate one and id like to point out to you that the United States is walking away from the entire. Spectrum of arms control agreements i think this is very dangerous as well go ahead jump and. Yes youre absolutely right peter. And the sanctions regime that the United States has in partic
A very very Serious Business and that both the democrats and republicans want to tighten every you know you know as a as moving forward so whoever wins this election will want to impose some kind of sanctions some kind of penalties pressure the obsession obsessive hatred of russia and now that prevails in london and in washington is a very Serious Business and i think that. This is one of the issues that in a certain point thing out that this this really it does get into a very dangerous situation and so what hes saying is that. This dangerous situation is part and parcel that as alexander pointed out with this revisionist view of world war 2. According to which the nazis and the soviets jointly launched it and this was a European Parliament resolution this isnt something he story the story in quite just the pontificating way this is a recent resolution of the European Parliament joint aggression by the soviet in and you point out you know important facts to keep in mind and said no th
Well and what is happening now in other words the collapse of the International System which he feels was unsustainable before the 2nd well and hes very unsustainable so. Thats really extremely well said you know george the the article is its a very long extremely detailed and my 1st reaction is this is a historical document all by itself it was only published a few days ago the parallels of the the 1930 s. And what we have right now in the International Order is is following apart fragmenting and this is one of the it is the primary reason other than nazi aggression started the 2nd world war in europe and i think the parallels are really quite me have the United States using sanctions as a political weapon we have we have constant pressure being brought against iran against and israel but has no basis in International Law and this and this is a very appropriate one and id like to point out to you that the United States is walking away from the entire. Spectrum of arms control agreemen
I dont know welcome to worlds apart in just one comment 9. Politics has replaced geopolitics or rather has become. More intense than al deal with the day while be careful citizens how has removed the need for politicians to carefully calibrated or even explain their policies is what the doctor ordered now and. Unquestionable well to discuss that im now joined by the editor in chief in Foreign Affairs magazine so its good to see you again thank you very much for taking time to talk to us oh. You know the magazine is by the way rushing Global Affairs but that doesnt matter. My and my fault here youre wrong to recently including in that very magazine and that the main lesson of this pandemic is the un says steyn ability of unification the attic collapse of this near liberal world view that there is only one right way of organizing or running a society and yet if we look at the way the country is responded to this pandemic regard list of their political or social organization its pretty it